Posts by FMZ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

Gumbanickabollockov:

I'm glad ya asked mate... here is a very interesting article written by P.M.H.Atwater (L.H.D., Ph.D) about the very commonly occuring changes in people after NDEs. Seems stopping watches isn't the only thing that happens after an NDE: http://www.cinemind.com/atwater/anotherlook.html

As far as the "mind trick" thing goes... I agree, also a possibility, though evidence points to the contrary. There have been many reports of NDEers that have afterwards been able to accurately describe events that happened in the operating room while they were braindead. I have also read a couple of accounts of people that have seen things happen all around the hospital during the NDE, not just in the OR. Again, the evidence is anecdotal at best, and this is where beliefs come in, which are oh-so difficult to discuss. ;)

KJ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

Kudra:

Nope, I didn't do the study. The information was from: http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/watches.html

There are a number of people that have problems with electronics when under a lot of stress. If we open our minds just a little to the possibility that there may be some other form of energy swirling about our bodies, we could see how this could have an effect on any electronics in our immediate surroundings.

In the case of the watch, it may well be caused by impulses in the nervous system, combined with perspiration from the skin, as watches are in close contact with our skin, and almost always have a conductive metal plate on the back. However, in the case of a computer deciding to glitch at your most stressful moments... Really, do you think a little extra perspiration on your fingertips (do we even perspire from our fingertips?) could effectively conduct electrical impulses from your body, through the plastic keys on your keyboard, into your computer, and make it fail?

Just my humble ramblings ;)

FMZ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

Kudra,

The fact that you don't buy the "light at the end of the tunnel" thing could lead us down a slippery slope of "FMZ: I experienced it", "Kudra: Yeah, but I don't buy it, it was all in your head"... a discussion that happens daily on the internet, and a discussion to which there is no end, so let's just concentrate on the watch-stopping thing. ;) I agree, it is a possibility that it is due to the electrical impulses coming from our bodies. I'd like to hear further opinions on this, as I am not up too much on the electrical physiology of the human body. The only thing that makes me doubt this as a cause is what is usually associated with anomalous electrical impulses, i.e. epilepsy and muscle spasms. I'd think these would also manifest if there was enough actual current coursing through our bodies to stop a watch. But again, this is just my un-informed opinion. hehe

. FMZ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

Gumpus-Fugit:

I'm doing well bro. Hope things are goin OK for ya, and that knee is healing up well. Good question on the definition mate... :) From Wikipedia:

A near-death experience (NDE) is the perception reported by a person who nearly died or who was clinically dead and revived. The experience is somewhat common, especially since the development of cardiac resuscitation techniques. According to a Gallup poll approximately eight million Americans claim to have had a near-death experience (Mauro, 1992). The experience often includes an out-of-body experience.

My NDE was caused when I put a metal knife in a wallsocket when I was younger. Knocked me across the kitchen. Next thing I knew, I was looking down at myself from the ceiling. I could see my parents working to revive me. I was vaguely aware of a tunnel to my left, but I didn't pay much attention to it. Then, in an instant, I was back in my body.

KJ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

Jeff:

I'll agree that the numbers may be slightly off on the poll of NDEers, but in the same token, so would the survey of non-NDEers having watch problems. Still, even with a very large leeway for errors in the statistics, a 76% differential is hard to ignore ;). The informal study was done by a biased non-believer, who, after the study, became a believer.

So, yes, the results may be skewed... but either way, I personally know 2 people that have had NDEs, and they were no longer able to wear watches afterwards. These are the only two people I personally know to have had NDEs. That's 100% right there ;)

Kudra:

I forgot about that. I shall reply on that thread when I have time to pull a few articles together.

Now, apart from the very possible skewing of data (see my comments to Jeffro)... what else would you base your dismissal of the data on?

FMZ

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80% of Near Death Experiencers Can't Wear Watches...

by FMZ in

jw
friends

i have had about 5 digital watches since my nde when i was young.

every single one of them reset itself regularly.

2 of them i gave away because of the problems i had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since..

FMZ

And I'm one of the 80%. I have had about 5 digital watches since my NDE when I was young. Every single one of them reset itself regularly. 2 of them I gave away because of the problems I had, and their new owners (my father and brother) never had a problem with the watches since.

It was only recently that I found out that many NDEers have the same problem as I do. In an informal study of 27 people that have had NDEs, 80% said they no longer wear a watch because it simply stops working, as opposed to 4% of non-NDEers that have problems with watches.

Has anyone here had a near-death experience, and if so, do you have problems with watches when you wear them?

I'll give my thoughts on what may cause this later when I have more time. I'll be interested in hearing what the skeptics think, also. ;)

Light, love and life to all you good people. (And some of the bad ones... hehe :P) FMZ

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The Mayan Calander Ends 2012 December

by frankiespeakin in

have any on this board read into this subject?

FMZ

MKR, pardon the bottle of wine I just drank.. but...

Our calendar (the Gregorian calendar that so many countries subscribe to) is only based EXTREMELEY loosely on the Gregorian calendar, which doesn't hold much to the cycles of life on this planet.

The Mayan calendar is nothing but cycles... There is a big difference bro.

FMZ

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I am off to Graduation Ceremonies!

by Sparkplug in

jw
friends

wish me luck!

i am really kind of nervous!

FMZ

Decki :D

Congratulations, you deserve it after all that hard work. :)

kj

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The Mayan Calander Ends 2012 December

by frankiespeakin in

have any on this board read into this subject?

FMZ

DR, I'll check out those books and sites and see which feels right for me to read, thanks for the recommendations. :)

As noted previously, what I find most striking here is the timing with regards to the theory of the "Indigo Children". The Indigos were first noted about 10 years ago by a Western couple (it would seem, purely independently of other culture's belief systems). They are said to be the step to the next evolution of mankind, on a higher spiritual vibration than previous generations.

This seems to fit in perfectly with the timing of the events of 2012. By that time, most of the Indigos would be of age, and mature enough to take the lead after whatever that year brings. I sometimes wonder if I am of this caste.

One young lady that I know is Indigo has had premonitions all her life, and has been told many times that she is here for a higher purpose (by people not even aware of the Indigo theory). She has been told that she will take the lead after some major world events. She is a very special person. Again, all of this seems to coincide with the end of the Mayan calendar.

Looks like I have a lot of reading to do. I always find it interesting when belief systems converge like this, seemingly all reaching the same conclusion independently.

KJ

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The Mayan Calander Ends 2012 December

by frankiespeakin in

have any on this board read into this subject?

FMZ

Desert, I'd be very interested in hearing about the other cultures you have found that hold similar beliefs.

KJ