Posts by Neo

Yeah, you'll have to think a lot on the way you're gonna approach him. If he's still in full JW mode, he may even want to tell the elders you were "associating" with your DF sister.

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Need prayers for my sister...she just got DF'd

by FreedomFrog in

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i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.

they both got df'd last thurs.

and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.

Neo

I'm so ANGRY that I'm shaking here!!! I've just got to not show that anger and hold it in because of my parents.

I totally understand... This makes me sick. Watchtower compassion in action...

Oh, and the elders answering her, told her "well, now YOU can go out and to the bad things that you want to do".

No comment.

on the plus side, they BOTH got d'fed together AND they have YOUR support...

That's a positive side on the story.

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New OM Book replacement & Upcoming Elder School

by doinmypart in

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the organized to accomplish our ministry (om book) will be replaced on sunday march 20, 2005 with a book titled organized to do jehovah's will.

this is confidential, so be sure to tell your relatives and friends that are still in!

will there be any updates to the org's procedures, or just a re-hash of old policies?

Neo

bttt - one month before the earth-shattering release of Society's new book.

Follow the link:

"Organized to do Jehovah's Will" Book contents

Neo

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Witness Mentality

by minimus in

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what does that mean to you?

describe an example of "witness mentality".

Neo

Witness mentality
What does it mean to you?

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just a thought.... looking through the greatest man book, something just occurred to me which i can't recall has ever been highlighted (but please correct me).. i always thought it a bit strange that jehovah allowed the three pagan astrologers to find jesus especially as they were obviously guided to him by satan's star (remember they were led to herod first who wanted to kill the messiah).

what purpose did it serve?.

well, a few pages earlier in tgm book, we see mary presenting a dove as a sin offering at the temple - this was the cheapest offering that was acceptable which must have meant that they were pretty poor at the time.. shortly after the three wise men visited the family had to flee to egypt when herod started to kill all the young boys in an attempt to kill jesus.. what would they need to travel and live as exiles for a couple of years?.

Neo

Simon, you'd better heed the counsel of the Faithful and Discreet Slave!!

*** w62 6/15 pp. 380-383 Avoid Unprofitable Questions ***

Avoid

Unprofitable Questions

HAVE you noticed how frequently the apostle Paul alerted Christians to guard against speculation and unprofitable questions? To Timothy he wrote: "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories." (2 Tim. 4:3, 4) In his letter to Titus, Paul warned: "Shun foolish questionings and genealogies and strife and fights over the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile." (Titus 3:9) Elsewhere the apostle cautions Christians to avoid "philosophy and empty deception," "idle talk," "empty speeches," "falsely called ?knowledge,"" "false stories," and "strange teachings."?Col. 2:8; 1 Tim. 1:6; 6:20; 2 Tim. 4:4; Heb. 13:9. (...)

ABUNDANT

KNOWLEDGE

Today, in the spiritual paradise enjoyed by Jehovah?s witnesses, the divine promise has come true: "Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant." (Dan. 12:4) (...) Yes, from Jehovah God, his Word and organization comes the instruction that enables Christians to walk in His paths, worshiping the Father with spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

UNPROFITABLE USE OF TIME

Handling God?s Word of truth aright requires that we discern between profitable and unprofitable questions. Naturally we have questions about the past, present and future. In the Bible Jehovah has provided authentic answers to the questions that properly concern us at this time. Sometimes secular history can fill us in on details not given in the Bible. But there are other questions to which neither the Bible nor profane history provides an answer. It is not wise or safe for us to speculate about questions of that nature.

For example, in all good faith one might ask, What was Jehovah doing before he created Jesus, by whom he made all other things? If Adam and Eve had repented, would God have forgiven them? What happened to the bodies of those who perished in the Flood? Did the expensive gifts brought to the babe Jesus make Joseph and Mary rich for the rest of their lives? What did Jesus do between the ages of twelve and thirty besides his carpentering? How would Jehovah have redeemed the race if Jesus had not proved faithful? Exactly how long did Jesus? trip to heaven take? Much time could be spent conjecturing on such matters.

THE

DANGERS

A Christian who indulges in speculation from the platform or in group Bible study tends to attract undue attention to himself. Personal theories can cause division of thought and even lead to disputes about trifles. Ones newly associated with Jehovah?s congregation might be stumbled by what would appear to be a lack of love and unity. (...)

Your avoiding speculation and unprofitable questions will demonstrate your meekness and willingness to await Jehovah?s due time to provide further information on any matter, if it be his will. This he can easily do by further enlightening our understanding of the Bible, by bringing to pass events foretold therein, or even by resurrecting the dead with their detailed knowledge of past events. By waiting upon Him and his organization all of Jehovah?s servants will speak in agreement, being "fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought," to his praise and our eternal welfare.?1 Cor. 1:10.

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"Organized to do Jehova's Will" Book contents

by DaCheech in

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first page... this book issued to________________ date___________ place of baptism____________ date___________.

contents:.

1. organanized to do jehovahs will.

Neo

Compare the first few chapters of the two books.

Old book:

1 Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry
2 Benefiting From Theocratic Subjection
3 Recognizing Christ's Role in God's Arrangement
4 How the Congregation Is Organized and Governed

New book:

1 Organized to do Jehovah's Will
2 Recognizing Christ's role in Gods arrangement
3 Trusting "the Faithful and Discreet Slave"
4 How the congregation is organized and governed

They unwittingly put off their mask with a true theological Freudian slip. The first three chapters perfectly correlate with the Three Persons of the Christian Trinity. The FDS takes the place that would naturally belong to the Holy Spirit... Are they bordering on blasphemy or what?

Neo

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"Organized to do Jehova's Will" Book contents

by DaCheech in

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first page... this book issued to________________ date___________ place of baptism____________ date___________.

contents:.

1. organanized to do jehovahs will.

Neo

Here is the chapter list of the older Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry:

1 Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry ?????????. 5
2 Benefiting From Theocratic Subjection ?????????12
3 Recognizing Christ's Role in God's Arrangement ????17
4 How the Congregation Is Organized and Governed ???.21
5 Overseers to Shepherd the Flock ?????.. . . . . . . ??28
6 Ministerial Servants Render Valuable Service ??? . . . . 55
7 Arrangements for Regularly Assembling Together ???. .60
8 Ministers of the Good News ???? . . . . . . . . . ????.81
9 Ways to Expand Your Ministry ????? . . . . . . . . ?..110
10 How the Ministry Is Supported ????.. . . . . ?.. . . . 119
11 Holding to Jehovah's Righteous Standards ????.. . . 127
12 When Difficulties Arise . . . . . . . . . . . . . ???.?138
13 A Worldwide Association of Brothers ?????.. . . ?.. 153
14 Enduring With Life in View ????. . . . . ?. . . . ??.161
Appendix: Questions for Those Desiring to Be Baptized . . . 171
Subject Index - ??.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ???? ??..219

It imeddiately leaps out the fact that there's more emphasis on the WT Leadership. The new chapters clearly reveal the trend:

3. Trusting "the Faithful and Discreet slave"

17. stay close to Jehovah's organization

Interestingly, the last chapter changes the focus completely, from "Enduring With Life in View" in the old om book to 'Closeness with the Organization' in the new. The light is no doubt shining brighter and brighter...

Neo

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