Posts by Neo

the tactic is where they head the opposing arguments off at the pass, like when a new person studies and they get to the point where they want to make a stand for "the truth".

the person studying with them will tell them to "expect opposition from your family, this is satan trying to get at you because now you have found the truth and he's mad.".

Neo

Now we've got two expressions:

Procatalepsis

and

Mystical Manipulation

Thanks, euripedes and Will Power!

Mystical manipulation is
"The claim of divine authority or spiritual advancement that allows the leader to reinterpret events as he or she wishes, or make prophecies or pronouncements at will, all for the purpose of controlling group members. Extensive personal manipulation, initiated from the leaders is designed to provoke certain patterns of behavior and emotion in such a way that they appear to have arisen spontaneously from within the member or the group environment. The group's mystique justifies manipulation even when they supercede all considerations of decency or of immediate human welfare. Members eventually feel betrayed but ultimately choose to betray themselves since all of life appears to support the claims of the leader. The members are deprived of the opportunity to exercise their capacities for self-expression and independent action."
http://www.ferozegolwalla.com/id19.html

Is there a name for this kind of JW tactic?

by ithinkisee in

is there an actual psychological term or whatever for this kind of jw tactic?.

the tactic is where they head the opposing arguments off at the pass, like when a new person studies and they get to the point where they want to make a stand for "the truth".

the person studying with them will tell them to "expect opposition from your family, this is satan trying to get at you because now you have found the truth and he's mad.".

Neo

MerryM,

Prophetic manipulation

I like that term.

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Is there a name for this kind of JW tactic?

by ithinkisee in

is there an actual psychological term or whatever for this kind of jw tactic?.

the tactic is where they head the opposing arguments off at the pass, like when a new person studies and they get to the point where they want to make a stand for "the truth".

the person studying with them will tell them to "expect opposition from your family, this is satan trying to get at you because now you have found the truth and he's mad.".

Neo

I don't recall if there's a specific name for this but try the following articles;

http://members.aol.com/beyondjw/indoct.htm

http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/fractfamilies.html

http://www.freeminds.org/psych/help.htm

Neo

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Rapture index

by Satanus in

jw
friends

how much longer do christians have on this earth before they get zapped off to be w jesus at his ranch on utopianus planet in the logos nebula?

rest easy folks.

it's being taken care of by the lords people on the site called rapture ready.

Neo

Ha! There are so many predictions for the rapture by Christian pre-tribulationists dispensationalists that just about every day for the next years are all covered by at least one prediction.

Rapture Index of 85 and Below: Slow prophetic activity
Rapture Index of 85 to 110: Moderate prophetic activity 
Rapture Index of 110 to 145: Heavy prophetic activity 
Rapture Index above 145: Fasten your seat belts

Is the index at 153? Well, they say that the even the 153 fish in John 21 are prophetic of the rapture, so it must be real close!! Anytime soon!!

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Jehovah or Yahweh?

by undercover in

as i was growing up i remember that we, as jehovah's witnesses, took great pride in showing people god's name in their own bible.

we were the only religion(or so i was told anyway) that used god's name.

our bible, the new world translation, put god's name back where it belonged.

Neo

Hi Nathan, nice to see you around.

Neo

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Please say hi to my 6 year old...this is his first post.

by FreedomFrog in

jw
friends

.

booooooooooooooooooooooooo.

hee hee hee hi i'm zach this is my frrst post

Neo

Hi Zach!! What's up?

Neo

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Paradox: Are Faithless Watchtower Leaders Reform's Best Hope?

by metatron in

while many among the watchtower's leadership are no doubt sincere, there is no proof.

more than this, in examining the life of a man like rutherford - complete with.

his habits involving cruelty, alcohol, greed , reviling others, neglect of his family and contempt.

Neo

Pistoff,

Simply brilliant. They reinterpret and sterilize the parable. One more good example like Metatron's.

Neo