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  What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

  by gordon d in

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  what scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?

  for obvious reasons!

  i'll start with honesty's contribution: .

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  (1 Kings 17:21-22) 21 And he proceeded to stretch himself upon the child three times and call to Jehovah and say: "O Jehovah my God, please, cause the soul of this child to come back within him." 22 Finally Jehovah listened to E·li´jah’s voice, so that the soul of the child came back within him and he came to life.

  (Acts 20:9-12) 9 Seated at the window, a certain young man named Eu´ty·chus fell into a deep sleep while Paul kept talking on, and, collapsing in sleep, he fell down from the third story and was picked up dead. 10 But Paul went downstairs, threw himself upon him and embraced him and said: "STOP raising a clamor, for his soul is in him." 11 He now went upstairs and began the meal and took food, and after conversing for quite a while, until daybreak, he at length departed. 12 So they took the boy away alive and were comforted beyond measure.
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  Concerning Watchtower Cash and Possible Changes

  by metatron in

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  if you've ever studied authoritarian regimes, you may understand that since access to honest truth is carefully rationed,.

  all sorts of "reasons" for doing things may appear, that take the place of hard fact.

  even worse, the leadership may .

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  Met,

  The Society had to defend their UN shenanigans to assembled elders in Europe.

  I'd like to have more info on that.

  Thanks,
  
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  "I want mercy, not sacrifice"

  by under_believer in

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  it's not a new thought, but it bears occasional repetition.

  repetition, you might say, for emphasis.. why is blood forbidden jw's?

  why are there laws and regulations that can cause a person, a child, a lover, a husband, a wife, a mother, a father, to die?.

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  under_believer,

  Simple and obvious. Thanks.

  The parallel passage in Mark adds a phrase in the grainfields account that emphasizes your point:

  Mark 2:23-27 23

  Now it happened that he was proceeding through the grainfields on the sabbath, and his disciples started to make their way plucking the heads of grain. 24 So the Pharisees went saying to him: "Look here! Why are they doing on the sabbath what is not lawful?" 25 But he said to them: "Have YOU never once read what David did when he fell in need and got hungry, he and the men with him? 26 How he entered into the house of God, in the account about A·bi´a·thar the chief priest, and ate the loaves of presentation, which it is not lawful for anybody to eat except the priests, and he gave some also to the men who were with him?" 27 So he went on to say to them: "The sabbath came into existence for the sake of man, and not man for the sake of the sabbath;

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  Matt. 10:35

  by gspradling in

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  my jw mom always uses this verse to justify her distance from me and my family.

  i have never been able to come up with a reasonable response to her.

  does anyone have any good suggestions?

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  gspradling,

  You can also check the following thread: ...but Jesus said the truth would divide families!!!!.
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  The Mastercard "Priceless" commerical revamped for JW's

  by truthseeker in

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  i'll start one and then you follow!

  "fill her up regular please" out on field service - $10 on debit mastercard .

  dunkin donuts with the dubs - $6 on debit mastercard .

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  JWs were circulating an e-mail with the following pic (yes, they mean it!):

  
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  Intertextuality: Luke and 1 Corinthians

  by Neo in

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  im looking for information about how much the author of the third canonical gospel draws from pauls first epistle to the corinthians.

  a comparison of the synoptics with 1 corinthians seems to show that luke is more closely linked to 1 corinthians than the others.. consider the following passages, for example:luke 10:7,8 stay in that house, eating and drinking whatever they give you (exclusively lukan), for the worker deserves his wages (mysthos; matt uses rhabdos, food).

  do not move around from house to house.

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  I’m looking for information about how much the author of the third canonical Gospel draws from Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians. A comparison of the Synoptics with 1 Corinthians seems to show that Luke is more closely linked to 1 Corinthians than the others.

  Consider the following passages, for example:

  Luke 10:7,8 Stay in that house, eating and drinking whatever they give you (exclusively Lukan), for the worker deserves his wages (mysthos; Matt uses rhabdos, food). Do not move around from house to house. When you enter a town and are welcomed, eat what is set before you.
  Luke 17:10 So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, “We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.”
  
  1 Corinthians 9:14,16-18 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel (cf. 1Tim 5:18). … Yet when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, for I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward (mysthos); if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me. What then is my reward (mysthos)? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make use of my rights in preaching it.
  1 Corinthians 10:27 If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience.

  Luke 11:49 For this reason also the wisdom of God said, “I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute” (In Matthew’s parallel passage [23:34], Christ, not the "wisdom", is the one who says “I will send…”)

  1 Corinthians 1:24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. (God’s sophia personified, as in Luke)

  First Corinthians’ Last Supper account, in particular, is followed more closely by G-Luke than by G-Matthew and G-Mark. For instance, only Luke and Paul add the command: “Do this in remembrance of me.” (Luke 22; 1 Corinthians 11)

  What do you think? Is there any common material used by the authors of Luke and 1 Corinthians? I’m interested in the following issues:

  1) Among the Gospels, which is more dependent upon 1 Corinthians’ gospel traditions? Is it Luke?
  2) Among the Pauline epistles, which one has a more dense intertextuality with Luke/Acts? 1 Corinthians?

  Does anyone have any info (or links) on that? Thanks!

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  the 6-6-06 billboards

  by Oroborus21 in

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  just wondering if any of you have seen these billboards where you live?.

  i think they are interesting.

  at first, i thought that some kooky group was sponsoring them.

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  Now I got it... Page break's fault.
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  Loss of Elders

  by metatron in

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  large numbers of jw congregations are going to be trouble long before they lose their last elder to death or resignation.. most congregations i know have at least one - and often several - elders who can barely function at all, due to illness, old age.

  or just plain inability to accomplish anything.

  the society seems loathe to remove these men, despite their 'elder in name only'.

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  Beards are not looked upon with such disdain in Europe. Basically, the farther north you go, the more accepted they are.

  Ooops, I hadn't seen that dozy was from UK.

  A related thread:Metatron: Loss of Elders Confirmed

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  the 6-6-06 billboards

  by Oroborus21 in

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  just wondering if any of you have seen these billboards where you live?.

  i think they are interesting.

  at first, i thought that some kooky group was sponsoring them.

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  Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus....
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  Loss of Elders

  by metatron in

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  large numbers of jw congregations are going to be trouble long before they lose their last elder to death or resignation.. most congregations i know have at least one - and often several - elders who can barely function at all, due to illness, old age.

  or just plain inability to accomplish anything.

  the society seems loathe to remove these men, despite their 'elder in name only'.

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  When I attended the elders school in November , the average age must have been 55 , including numerous very old brothers. There were some younger elders who did the bulk of the teaching parts. Notably , there were very few "young" (30 something) elders - and a couple of them had "goatee" beards , so I guess the appointment criteria has been relaxed!

  What?? Are you being serious?