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  The danger of thinking we know everything.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  a thought occurred that there is a danger in thinking we know everything, or have it all figured out in life.

  especially when it comes to matters of doctrine or faith.. witnesses (or at least the society as a whole) are so self-confident, so proud to be the only ones who know "the truth" about everything to do with the universe, the earth, our past and our future, that pride kicks in.

  and pride is dangerous...(.and before a fall).

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  Run with those that search for truth, and run like hell from those who claim to have found it. - I don't remember where I heard that quote, but I love it. The more I know, the more I realize I don't know. I'd rather be humble and hungry than arrogant and satisfied like I used to be as a JW.
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  London Ohio and Indianapolis Assemby Halls to be sold

  by munchausen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  announce was made this week that the assembly halls in london, ohio and indianapolis indiana will be sold and a new 3000 seat assembly hall will be built in southwest ohio.

  the assembly hall in london ohio was built in the 70's and is in fine shape - nothing wrong with it.

  the new one will cost around 8-9 million.

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  Ha-ha, I remember all of the hype about this. We went to Indy for assemblies at times, though honestly it was closer for us to head to Frankfort (KY) so we would often just go there. The drive was shorter. No hotels needed. I wondered how they could consolidate and put more stress on attendees having to drive farther. In the end, was it just a money grab? I seem to remember slips being passed around back then to pledge money monthly to support the new assembly hall. What about the pledge to actually build it, lol.
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  Health, fitness and recovery advice

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i hope this is okay with you simon, but since i've noticed the number of forum members looking to discuss or seek advice on various health issues i thought it would be a good idea to start a thread dedicated to this topic alone.

  any discussions or advice on these matters could be put here where any and all would be welcome to jump in with any help they could offer.

  i am working on the first questions at the moment taken from the cognac/morpheus weight loss thread.

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  Thanks for the advice SSC! I'm going to see what I can incorporate into my days and try to get some exercise plan going. Funny you should talk about hiking. We just went today:

  http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/shemwelljr/P1050309_zpsqa0hkll7.jpg
  
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  TheAtlantic.com - Disowning a Daughter Over a Church

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a reader from south carolina has a heartbreaking story:" i am 31 years old.

  i was raised in a strict bi-cultural (af-american and nigerian) jehovah’s witness family, one of six children.

  though it’s generally looked down upon for jws to attend liberal arts universities (vocational schools are recommended), i somehow convinced my parents to allow me to go to university and major in theater (!!

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  I hate that scripture mentioned in 1 Corinthians. My brother was DF'ed when I was younger and I shunned like a good JW would. I realized one day that the scripture never talks about what to do if that person is no longer practicing those things. It's all so arbitrary and stupid. My brother was leading a nice life. Why was I shunning him again?

  One verse in the Bible can be used to do so much harm.

  I got so mad at the comment that I just wrote in a reply. I'll see if it gets published or not.
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  Health, fitness and recovery advice

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i hope this is okay with you simon, but since i've noticed the number of forum members looking to discuss or seek advice on various health issues i thought it would be a good idea to start a thread dedicated to this topic alone.

  any discussions or advice on these matters could be put here where any and all would be welcome to jump in with any help they could offer.

  i am working on the first questions at the moment taken from the cognac/morpheus weight loss thread.

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  Noice! Thanks SSC!
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  I need your feedback re: anti-shunning campaign

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alright, so i posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the regional convention part on shunning.

  my goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer.

  i want to make them think twice.

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  Make the postcards available to people like myself who are currently shunned (whether DA'd or DF'ed) so that they can send them to their believing JW relatives to plant seeds of doubt before the shunning talk to be given at the conventions.
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  I need your feedback re: anti-shunning campaign

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alright, so i posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the regional convention part on shunning.

  my goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer.

  i want to make them think twice.

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  Thanks, but I'm not interested in putting any apostate sites or stickers on my campaign. It will only serve to shut most JW's down. I'm trying to keep it to reason alone. They can find those sites easy if they care to look. I want to keep it strictly about love vs. shunning.
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  I need your feedback re: anti-shunning campaign

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alright, so i posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the regional convention part on shunning.

  my goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer.

  i want to make them think twice.

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  Alright, so I posted earlier this week about my desire to put together some sort of campaign to target the friends and family that shun us before the Regional Convention part on shunning. My goal is to produce a postcard that can be mailed out to those that shun us to contrast shunning and love before it is cemented in their minds this summer. I want to make them think twice. Shunning is one hole in the armor because everyone has basic humanity within even if it is covered with JW doctrine.

  I also want to make them see what shunning does, and that they are the ones responsible for it, as it is an act carried out by them. JW's like to talk about the devastating effects that it has on them but they never even look at what they're doing to others. I know that realizing what I was doing to my brother by shunning him was a huge part of my journey in waking up.

  There is sooooooo much that I want to say on the subject of shunning, but I can't say it all. Our friends and family won't read some long diatribe. I sat down and wrote so many different things and nothing flowed until the poem that came out below. It just came to me without trying, something that often helps me see that I must be letting some feelings out, something I wanted to do with this.

  So, let me know what you think of what I've written. I'm hoping that it, if written on a postcard with something to catch their eye, will be read by the recipient. Poems aren't everyone's thing, but can be hard to put down if you get a glimpse and they apply to you in some way. I've tried to hit both the Bible's view of love and contrast it with shunning.

  Is this something you'd send to your parents, siblings, friends, etc. that shun you if put on a postcard. I like postcards because you can't not read them. They will catch your eye without any effort from you when you pull them from your mailbox. Let me know what you think. I have to admit to feeling a little vulnerable putting a poem out there like this, but it is what it is and flowed from the heart and I hope it might be of use. I hope my formatting sticks here:

  
  

  God is love
  

  Love is kind
  Why would you choose to
  Leave your loved ones behind

  If you greet your brothers only
  What extraordinary thing have you done
  Forgive up to seventy seven times
  Never did Jesus shun

  As kids we weren't given choices
  There was pressure to decide
  Shunning due to child baptism
  Leads many to suicide

  My relationship with God
  Is mine, not of your own
  So what right do you have
  To choose to disown

  Shunning is emotional blackmail
  The opposite of love
  It is control exercised by man
  Painful for all, not reflective of God above

  We are the shunned
  The loved ones you shame
  You are the ones that shun
  We will not accept the blame.
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  This Week's New Yorker Magazine

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the april 4th issue contains a very well-written and insightful article about the jws: "god's work" by kevin canty.

  it's fiction, but on the money as far as the experience of an adolescent reconciling the beliefs with his natural biological urges.

  boy, could i relate!

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  Wow, very well written. It really captures a lot of JW youth.
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  Update on fade. Elders finally are interested on my "welfare"

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so since the last time i posted regarding my fade, you all learned that i was having some health issues.

  that came along just right to quit going to meeting without raising much suspicion.

  somehow everyone at the hall seemed ready to tell my wife they missed me but attended the memorial and no one bothered to take the initiative to back those words with actions.. i guess that having seen me at the memorial they at least felt bad because last night i got a call from one of the elders telling me they want to come today and visit with me.

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  That seems like a good suggestion. ^^^^

  Once they finally reached out to us we sent in disassociation letters, lol. We couldn't stand to play their game. But there's some really good suggestions here.

  Regarding the warning, I honestly wouldn't worry. I've heard it said many times, even from the platform, because people feel like they're in trouble. With you being away for a bit, they probably wanted to emphasize that it was just a friendly call. It probably is, but let's face it, even a friendly call is with the goal of control and pushing you to go back.