Posts by dubstepped

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Understanding The Bible ... The "Linchpin" Effect

by Littleleslie in

understanding the holy bible.. .

after many years of study of scripture, our bible study group has discovered something very important that needs to be realized or absorbed, before one can come to a correct understanding of the bible.

we call it, the "linchpin" effect... .

dubstepped

Why would God have a book put together where the truth of it is hidden? Just to confuse people for centuries?

The more I learn about the Bible the less I believe in it. I mean come on, if God is supposed to be a loving heavenly father why ate his instructions so cryptic. Would a loving father give his kids riddles and then kill them if they can't figure them out? The Bible is a collection of stories, some with good lessons, some reflecting wisdom (like Proverbs), and some just batsh!t crazy. If it is something God wants me to devote my life to he needs to make it more clear and maybe preserve evidence for some of the history it claims.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

dubstepped

M*A*S*H - A better video would be the little girl coming home and saying she might be gay... I would like to see the reaction to that.

Great point. My wife and I had a family that we were close with from a rural area about an hour away. Their little girl said constantly since the time she was well, a little girl, that she wanted to be a boy. She always kept her hair short and wore boy clothes except at meetings and in service. We found out later in life that as a teen she was asking other girls if they would find her attractive if she was a boy. Her parents were hard core, very rigid in their dubdom. We lost contact once they moved away and now that we've disassociated I'm sure they'd never in a million years talk to us, but I wonder what happened to their daughter. She clearly had issues from early on, and her parents would NOT accept any alternative anything. I hope she found peace despite all of the hateful messages that she heard and what her family would say.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

dubstepped

Cofty: dubstepped - Did you read Steve2's comments?
He self-identifies as a gay man.
"It's clearly NOT a hateful video. The adjective "hateful" has become an over-used word to describe anyone who dares disagree with you on a sensitive issue." - Steve2
Taking offense doesn't count. It is a cowardly way to shut down conversation.

I looked it up and hate speech is speech that offends, insults, or threatens groups, based on things such as sexual orientation. I'm pretty sure that most gay people would be offended at that video.

So now Steve2 not only speaks for all gay humanity but also sets definitions of words. Gotcha. We're all wrong because 1. Cofty says so folks, end of thread. Or, just maybe you feel one way and we feel the other. It's cool with me. Clearly it never is with you.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

dubstepped

Cofty: The worse part of the video is that the little girl is being taught how to go back to school and make judgemental comments about her school friend's parents.

That doesn't sound at least a little hateful to you? A quick definition of hateful would mean "very unpleasant" or "very bad or evil". I think you're reasonable enough to see that it at least ticks those boxes. Maybe it doesn't fit your definition of hatred which I could see one seeing as more intense than what was shown, but it certainly meets some definitions, maybe just not yours.

I looked it up and hate speech is speech that offends, insults, or threatens groups, based on things such as sexual orientation. I'm pretty sure that most gay people would be offended at that video.

I really wouldn't keep arguing that it isn't hateful. It is, even if not as intensely as some might view the word "hate".

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Letter # 1 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

here is my first letter i posted to the governing body.

i also hope that brothers on the writing committee who may be lurking on this site (and have some clout) read my letter and bring in change to this very flawed policy around confession of sins.. enjoy.

the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.

dubstepped

I hate to be discouraging, but nobody will care. If you're doing this to get things off your chest, fire away. If you think the writing committee comes here for ideas, I'm not sure where you get that. If you send it to HQ it will never reach the GB.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

dubstepped

Hate doesn't have to be an act of aggression. It doesn't often start out that way. Hate can be looking down on someone else as different. In fact, once you start labeling people as different and separating them out, they start to become less human and hate can fester later. As I pointed out earlier in what was really being said, that's a hateful message that will be put together bit by bit as those kids grow up.

And from my experience, JW homeschooling is an absolute joke. I watched my sister go through a program that was so simple in high school that I thought it was for grades K-5. How can uneducated people educate their children? Go somewhere like on JWtalk and peruse their forum on the subject. Those idiots can barely string together a coherent sentence and they're now teaching their kids. They use field service and theocratic activities as schooling. It is ridiculous. My own wife never graduated because her parents home schooled her and then discouraged her from spending time on it. The JW view of education is deplorable, and hiding their kids in a box only sets them up for failure.

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JWTV May Broadcast is up. hosted by an old burnt hot dog

by Dreamerdude in

what's up with jw parents taking their minor children to such desolate places?

like the english family that took their little kids to the jungles of ecuador, and the australians that took their little ones to norfolk island where hardly anyone lives, and they are the only children in a congregation of 11 publishers?

is this a new form of child abuse?

dubstepped

I get what Dreamer is saying too. People rip their kids away from friends and family in congregations often to move to economically depressed rural areas to help where the need is great. Screw the kids, it's all about the adults. I knew a family that decided to learn Spanish and serve there. The kids had no choice and lost friends to go sit in meetings with people and talks they couldn't understand. That marriage broke up and the kids ended up in therapy. Maybe it isn't reflective of the particular place mentioned in the DubTV video this month, but it's definitely an abusive thing that goes on.

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Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

dubstepped

@Gefangene - Excellent post! They don't even think about anyone else. They are such blowhards and narcissists that it is always about them and them only. It is like when a sister in the congregation has an unbelieving mate and has to endure comments about how they can find a good brother in the new system to marry, which of course necessitates the slaughter of her current husband at Armageddon, but those are minor details to JW's that dehumanize everyone but themselves.

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

dubstepped

Mom: "What can you tell Carrie at school?"

Sophia: "Well, I can tell Carrie about paradise and about how her mommies are going to die right on the cusp of it in a fiery Armageddon. Afterward Carrie and I can help bury their bodies once the birds pick them clean and we can live forever happy, because you know, Carrie won't even miss her mommies."

That's how it should have ended. Disgusting.

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Loyalty? Today's WT The RC. It's a fix!

by Slidin Fast in

today's wt has the below scripture as it's theme.

friday of the rc has the same as it's theme.

the silver nwt is alone in using the word loyalty in this verse.

dubstepped

What these sorts of conversations prove to me is that the Bible is just alphabet soup and sometimes people pick up a spoonful that says one word and sometimes it's another, none is worth hanging your life on. It's all left to the interpretation and the message that the person wants to get through. It is picked through and words are chosen to imbue the meaning that one group of persons wants to hammer home. You can pick a scripture that speaks to love, or one that speaks to the destruction of others, one that is dripping with kindness, or one that is harsh. It isn't worth wasting too much time on anymore for me. I love the catch though in the OP. I find it all interesting. I also find it all to show further that the Bible is a hot mess.