So let's roll with it and say that JWs, or religion in general, didn't really understand the severity of child sexual abuse at the time. Then what is religion for? Aren't they supposed to be directed by Almighty God? Shouldn't religion be the beacon of moral light in this dark world? Or could it just be that religion is a bunch of malarkey that is always a few steps behind the secular world, waiting for discoveries to claim as their own?
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"back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal
by purrpurr ina few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.
their response was quite amazing.
they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.
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A Hard Lesson Learned
by Disassociated Lady 2 indo you remember that my dad passed away last year and i was going back to the witnesses after 26 years?
i got reinstated after going there for 9 months.
in the 5 months since then i felt the men in the congregation didn't want me there.
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dubstepped
Didn't you say that what they found on you was from the past? How could they hold that against you unless you were still involved? Ultimately it works out best because you've seen what vile and disgusting human beings they are, but that doesn't make sense to me. Don't ever go back again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. So sorry you had to go through this mess.
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Benefits to Faith over Reason
by cobweb ini wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.
it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.
it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.
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dubstepped
I personally think that faith is for those not yet equipped emotionally and mentally to deal with reality. Many that turn to faith are looking for answers to traumas they've faced in life. They want the promise of something better without knowing how to make things better now.
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People hate God?
by looter init is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.
like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.
i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.
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dubstepped
The OP's name is fitting because God and his followers have been robbing people blind for centuries.
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Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World
by pale.emperor inim asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.
im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..
born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.
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Next week is my one year Shunniversary. I identify with your OP but can tell you that there's a magic point where all of that goes away fast. You have to give it time. Decades of cult indoctrination don't just disappear overnight. You need to develop friendships. That will help. You need to tell your story to people and feel seen and heard. It will happen for you. Do not give in to the cult and go back. I know the pull is strong now, but it will dissipate as one life replaces the other. Stay strong and you'll ultimately be happy like never before.
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Why A Divine Being is Possible
by looter innow we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.
and we always here of how it had a beginning.
but really what could have begun it?
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dubstepped
Of course it's possible. To assert that you know anything about that divine being though is the height of arrogance, as would be insisting on a divine being when you don't know. Possibility is a beautiful thing. Absolute belief without proof is delusion.
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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@konceptual: It has always been my understanding that what it says in that article is how it was. I don't really see anything new. They usually stayed away from making a direct rule, deferring to local culture, but here in the United States it has been frowned upon based on the feelings about beards from generations ago. Then again, maybe it is an overlapping frown on beards because they just can't make progress and change with the times but always lag behind.
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Shunning the Shunning
by Tallon infound this very interesting article on another site.
looks like there people, and at an assembly too, who are not afraid to show their displeasure to the inhumane policies of the org.. http://avoidjw.org/2016/08/shunning-the-shunning/.
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dubstepped
@Landy, you misread it. The disfellowshipping announcement was in the video where the young lady was disfellowshipped.
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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis
by OrphanCrow inand yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.
suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.
james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.
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They were supposed to sell it, along with another one, to build one in or near Cincinnati. Last I heard that deal was off, but they're still selling what they have.
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Off On A Trip - But Little Enthusiam
by Joe Grundy innever was a jw, but been here a long time.. off on a trip in a week or so, uk to andorra to stay with a friend for 10 days or so (beautiful place) then a week or so wending through france back home.. did the same trip the last couple of years -it was wonderful.
met some lovely people, including an ex-polce woman over coffees and calvados after dinner.. but ... i don't feel so enthusiastic about this trip.
i'll visit the cathar sites and other places.. maybe- just maybe - i've come to the conclusion that these trips are not as much fun if you don't have a companion to share it with..
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dubstepped
Oops, I meant to like your generous offer and apparently hit dislike. My bad. Who could dislike such a cool opportunity.