Posts by dubstepped

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

dubstepped

Deluded Brainwashed Cult Victim: What other religious organization on earth has been able accomplish what we have? Yes, to fulfill that command at Matthew 28:19, 20?

You do realize that other religions have grown faster than you, and that often it is other religions that break ground in being the first to take the Bible to new lands, right? Or do you just believe your own hype that has been indoctrinated into you?

As the apostle Paul was inspired to write at Ephesians 4:5, 6 that there is only "One Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” YES! There is only ONE true faith. One true religion. And WE, yes, Jehovah's Witnesses are that one true religion. As Peter said to Jesus, 'where else are we going to go lord?'

Actually, Peter asked "WHOM shall we go away to?". You see, that line you parroted is just more brainwashing to make you feel like you have to stay where you are to follow Jesus. Peter was pointing out that it was Jesus that one should follow, not the magnificent seven in New York.

Yes. What other religion on the face of this earth is truly preaching the good news of the kingdom?

Lots of them. They may just not view the kingdom in the same literal way as you.

What other religion is as completely united as Jehovah's Witnesses?

Pretty much any brainwashed cult.

And if you left the "truth," come back to the truth before it's too late. Time is running out folks.

Haven't you been saying that since the late 1800's?

Soon, very soon the four winds of destruction will be unleashed upon the earth. Jesus and all the holy angels will soon destroy this system of things. The question is,... do you want to be among the few survivors?

Not if I have to live with brainwashed morons that cannot exercise free will because their cult has taken their ability to think and act autonomously away from them. I'd rather die than live with the toxic people in your religion. After all, would you want to drink from a cup with even a little poison in it (a favorite JW illustration).

Go to our site now and find the truth for yourself. And as I said earlier, if you have left us for whatever reason, return to us while there is still time to do so folks.

Let he that is standing beware that he does not fall. The arrogance of Jehovah's Witnesses knows no bounds.

If you're truly honest-hearted you won't mind discussing what you believe, right. I mean, we can ask you questions and you'd be happy to answer them for us, wouldn't you? If you have the ability to think for yourself and don't need to rely on your website to do the talking for you, you should be "ready to make a defense before one that asks it of you", right? I have some questions for you, and I'd love to hear your answers. You should be able to wield your "sword" well, otherwise you're just promoting a website instead of the actual Bible.

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All enforced shunning soon to end.

by poopie in

jw
friends

so now you can share spiritual things with df ones.

dubstepped

Lol, an internet poster named poopie said it Simon. There's your reference. What more could anyone ask for? Poopie has spoken!

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

dubstepped

How did a toddler or baby understand what the snake was saying? How did it reach the fruit? How did that one rib from Adam fit in a baby's body? Did Adam take care of Eve as a baby and raise her to be his perfect wife? Lol, dumb questions abound because the whole story is ridiculous to begin with.

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

dubstepped

From the pictures I've seen she was an adult, lol.

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Sister at Kingdom Hall visibly upset "they took jehovahs name out of song"

by hoser in

jw
friends

i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.

they took it out.

i never even noticed .

dubstepped

Sounds like that sister needs some real problems in life if she's upset about that.

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More evidence beards are being eased in . . .

by neat blue dog in

the june 2017 watchtower tells the experience of a bible student who was homeless and unkempt, but improved his appearance after being preached to.. peter began to change.

he bathed, neatlytrimmed his beard, and put on the betterclothes that don offered him.

peter continued to maintain a clean appearance.. so here we see that with a neatly trimmed beard the watchtower's writers view him as having "a clean appearance".

dubstepped

To me it's a jump to say that beards are being eased in from this, but then again I wouldn't set foot in a Kingdom Hall so I can do whatever I want.

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Poll - Will you accept blood?

by OrphanCrow in

i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

*oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

i will post the new one .

dubstepped

Fishermanan hour ago
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine/amp

Thanks for posting that Fisherman, though it probably doesn't say what you thought it would say, but at least it didn't hide from its truth. It was a good read, and I encourage people to read all three articles in the series. You'll see that there were originally two opposing extremes, the medical community was throwing blood around like crazy and JWs who were denying themselves any blood. Thanks to those two polar opposites, the medical community has found a better balance. Unfortunately, Jehovah's Witnesses have not, and in the articles you'll see several mentions of more deaths with the Witnesses because they abstain even in cases where modern medicine has gotten better, and you'll read a few gut wrenching tales of people dying because of blood refusal. I believe this touched me the most, from the third article in the series found here:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-ethics-of-bloodless-medicine

"The situation is more complicated when it comes to minors. In Ian McEwan’s novel “The Children Act,” a judge must decide whether to insist upon transfusion for a seventeen-year-old Jehovah’s Witness who has leukemia and who cannot receive two critical drugs without also accepting donor blood, according to his doctors. The judge visits the frail boy in the hospital, where he is writing poetry and learning to play violin. He is mature and articulate in his refusal of blood. Yet the judge concludes that he has experienced only an “uninterrupted monochrome” view of life, and that his welfare would be better served by not dying. (As the boy receives his transfusion, his parents, who have testified to their acceptance of religious dogma, weep openly, and he realizes they are weeping with joy.)"

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Poll - Will you accept blood?

by OrphanCrow in

i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

*oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

i will post the new one .

dubstepped

Richard Oliver - Would I take a blood transfusion? No. I am only and Ex-Witness because I am gay and that is it if I could be gay and a witness then I would be. I do believe in the vast majority of what JWs believe in. But a blood transfusion should be a personal decision.

Hey, look at that, you were able to answer the question. I respect you for doing that. Too bad your dub buddy is a coward unlike you. Nice.

Now that I've commended you for finally participating in the thread as it was intended, I have to say that although you speak as though you have authority and credibility, you kind of showed your cards in the bold part above. Maybe instead of trying to dictate every thread that deals with legalities by muddying waters you should be spending your time putting that same intellect and time into picking apart those JW beliefs that are keeping you stuck. You'd make a much better apostate than you do reluctant cult outsider. If you're still buying what they're selling though (aside from the sexuality and blood issue, which really set you farther apart from their beliefs than I think you think), then your credibility for critical thinking in these issues of blood and child sexual abuse really takes a massive hit.

Sorry you find yourself in such conflict for real though. It can't be easy to walk around buying the lies that they're selling and defending them here all the while knowing they would have you killed gladly at the hand of the very beliefs that you're still hanging on to. That's a tough path to walk. It's also a tough path though to get from "I do believe in the vast majority of what JW's believe in" while being gay and thinking that blood transfusions are a personal choice. I mean, it puts you in direct conflict with JW teachings on sexuality, blood, the Bible as God's word, Jehovah's sovereignty, His use of the faithful and discreet slave and their claim to be just that, etc., and those alone are some of the big things that Witnesses hang their entire belief structure from.

Keep posting here though and eventually maybe you'll start reading more than you post and the house of cards that you believe in will fall down, especially if you start getting into Biblical topics and researching and reading those instead of these current topics where you find yourself defending those that are looking forward to you becoming bird food.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled bloodless programming............

Yes, I did say that I believe it should be a personal decision. And I used the Catholic Hospitals and Abortions so show that sometimes we still don't get choices even if we are not part of a religion.

I hate to break it to you RO, but Catholic is indeed a religion that people are a part of. Maybe you meant "this religion", as in JWs, there at the end. I don't know, but you seemed to be trying to take heat off the Watchtower by claiming that others do bad things too, which is just plain sad. Again it seems like you just can't take truly looking at the horrors of the religion known as Jehovah's Witnesses because you're still hung up on their beliefs and a delusion that somehow you're in harmony with them. I understand. A year before I left I was doubling down and defending Jehovah's Witnesses on some other online forums against people that said they protected pedophiles and such. I have a feeling that if you're as intelligent as you try to portray and you can shed the F.O.G. that they've laid on you, you'll have a change of heart like I did and you'll be as upset as I and others are that you were tricked into defending them.

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Poll - Will you accept blood?

by OrphanCrow in

i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

*oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

i will post the new one .

dubstepped

What do Catholics have to do with Jehovah's Witnesses endangering their members? You are once again trying to obfuscate the point of the thread by taking over the thread with meaningless arguments over trivialities. This is an ex-Jehovah's Witness site, not an ex-Catholic site. The conversation is about how Jehovah's Witnesses indoctrinating members bleeds over (yeah, I said that) into the view of blood even after one leaves.

By the way Richard Oliver, how do you respond to the original post as an ex-JW yourself. We already know that Fisherman is too afraid to respond. How about you? As an ex-JW, would you take blood? Why don't you speak to the original post instead of derailing the thread by picking apart words. Here's a great chance to stay on topic and contribute to the conversation being had rather than the one you want to have that usually takes attention away from the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are a dangerous organization to their members, whether that be by protecting pedophiles or preventing proper medical care at times.

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Poll - Will you accept blood?

by OrphanCrow in

i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

*oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

i will post the new one .

dubstepped

@OC - Thanks for the links. I even read the wrong one, lol. I'll check out the new one you posted.

@Doubting Bro- Good for you! That card really is a symbol of their control over your individual decision. Nice point. I remember shredding ours. We each did our own and it was freeing.