Posts by dubstepped

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Love

by Cold Steel in

comments?

stories?

reminiscences?.

dubstepped

Their brand of love is also reflective of their Jehovah. He loves you, as long as you do everything he asks, and if you fail, you will become bird food at Armageddon.

Honestly, I think the religion attracts messed up people, many narcissists, that don't know how to love even before running into them. My grandma told my mom before they married that "that man has never loved anyone or anything" as a warning. She was right. My mom came from a messed up family too. We kids were objects, not humans, just problems at best for them. They dropped us quick once we realized that shunning wasn't loving but psychological abuse and we reached out to my dfed brother after 14 years.

I'm just glad I got a chance to learn emotional health and to leave.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Love

by Cold Steel in

comments?

stories?

reminiscences?.

dubstepped

Control is not love. The lack of real love was my awakening. Brock outlines it very well.

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Lewis V Watchtower

by Richard Oliver in

as some may know as reported by jwsurvey in october 2014 that a lawsuit against watchtower was initiated in vermont.

march 30, 2017 saw a resolution to this case with a summary judgment being filled in watchtower favor..

dubstepped

Steve, I'm a teetotaler too (man that word looks weird spelled out). I'll have a nice water on the rocks sent your way. I gave up soft drinks and can't do lactose anymore, so my options are pretty limited. I could maybe hook you up with a juice, or some haterade, if you like. I have the latter in spades.

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Lewis V Watchtower

by Richard Oliver in

as some may know as reported by jwsurvey in october 2014 that a lawsuit against watchtower was initiated in vermont.

march 30, 2017 saw a resolution to this case with a summary judgment being filled in watchtower favor..

dubstepped

steve2 - It is unfortunate that others reply to RO's OP is little short of sarcastic, but I will charitably allow they have their reasons.

Gee, thanks for your charity in allowing others to reply as they see fit. I owe you one. (that sarcastic enough for you, lol)

RO has a history of posting anything possible, even if it means twisting something, to make the dubs look good. He admittedly would be one if he could. He doesn't have a penchant for even handed posts, he's here posting this because the religion that he wants to be a part of won. If they had lost I would be shocked to see him here posting about it, resurrecting a case first referenced in 2014.

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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

by Crazyguy in

it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

they are an extremist group!

dubstepped

Rainbow Troll nailed it in the first sentence of the first reply to you. It will only breed fanaticism. It will fuel their persecution complex. Heck, they're waiting and praying for the political system to turn on them.

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Lewis V Watchtower

by Richard Oliver in

as some may know as reported by jwsurvey in october 2014 that a lawsuit against watchtower was initiated in vermont.

march 30, 2017 saw a resolution to this case with a summary judgment being filled in watchtower favor..

dubstepped

Did you and Fishy throw a party? Congratulations on your victory Richard. You must be proud.

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Jehovah witnesses and life insurance

by Steel in

my wife was recently cornered by the elders about her blood card because she didn't have one.

so one elder witnessed her sign it and he signed it and one elder made himself her health care agent.. with the memorial coming up i am thinking of maybe having a life insurance policy drawn up, maybe in the amount of 300 or 400 dollars a month and i will ask these two dipshits if they would like to sign it.

it only seems fair they should be finicially responsible for my son since they made my wife sign a document endangering her safety.. what do you think?.

dubstepped

I have to ask, how did they know she didn't have one?

And yes, your policy idea sounds fair.

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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

dubstepped

I have always held that they're sincere, and probably super zealous, as it is those types that would devote their lives and rise up the ranks. To me they were probably more indoctrinated than anyone.

Then I see things like that last quote that was taken out of context and deliberately used a certain way in a WT, and it really makes me wonder if those that write or the gb themselves aren't playing some sort of messed up power game.

So I don't know. I guess I'd go with D. other, as my answer. My heart says totally sincere and delusional, but mu head says what about this or that where it seems like they are leading in a way that almost mocks their followers.

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Have You Found Your Place in the World?

by Rainbow_Troll in

we were all told when we were in the watchtower that we should be grateful to be part of such a loving family.

we were told that just beyond the superficial glamour of the world was a quagmire of despair, emptiness and pain waiting to suck us in.

obviously, we took that part with a mountain of salt or we wouldn't be here today.

dubstepped

Yes, I've found my place. We have great friends that are caring, educated, and have similar interests. Honestly most were our cleaning clients, families that we worked with for years. They were in a higher class than we were. We were raised poor. But these people aren't rich either, just nice middle or maybe upper middle class people living lives bigger than themselves. They're thoughtful and philosophical, and they took interest in us.

Life has the meaning you give it.

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Just an update on me

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

hi everyone, i came on here a few weeks ago and told my story and you were so kind, caring and welcoming.

your messages of support moved me to tears.

i was so grateful.

dubstepped

I'm so sorry for your past and what you experienced. Just know that it wasn't your fault.

I know you feel like the elders just think you're crazy because of their cold reaction, and maybe it's the case with some, but there really isn't much they can do now, or really ever. Looking to them is wrong in the first place. Of course an abuser will deny, and what really are they to do at this point. They should be a comfort, but that's usually way out of their league.

You need professional counseling. You need to stop going to meetings just to avoid hassle. In fact, you may be able to spin this your way. You were abused and need to spend time getting real help. You are probably among the depressed, and they usually get a pass on meeting attendance. Maybe it's a way out.

As you can see, those people aren't real friends. You can find genuine people in the world that will be compassionate friends. Maybe a support group for victims of abuse would be a good place to heal and connect.

In the end, you can't heal while serving an abusive organization. You have to do something different if you want different results. Please get help if you aren't already. Take care of you. Leave those monsters behind.