Posts by dubstepped

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

I'm with you stuckinarut. This is the one thing that messes with me pretty bad after leaving the cult two years ago. As someone else said, I'm not afraid of being dead, as I've been there before I was alive. I believe that may be a Twain quote. I don't look forward to the pain or even the medical issues that will one day come. I hate doctors and am squeamish.

When I go to bed at night I am often plagued in the silence by thoughts of death. It is one way where the cult really messed me up. Again, what gets to me is not the fear of being dead, I just don't want to have to say goodbye one day. I don't want to say goodbye to my wife, that crushes me, whether it be myself or her that goes out first. I don't want to have to see her go through pain either. I truly bought the cult's promise hood, line, and sinker. I was promised permanence and I expected it. Now that I'm out I realize that everything points to impermanence from the seasons to the breakdown of everything around me. I like that the Buddhists seem to teach impermanence on the whole.

So yeah, I struggle a lot with this. It honestly dominates me more than I would like to admit. When I was a kid my grandpa told me that we were going to the circus and that we'd have a ball. When he showed up without a ball I was devastated. So I always had a tendency to really buy in and take things word literal. Obviously not so much now, but my whole worldview was based around that filthy cult's teachings. It's in my head and the death thing is the one thing I can't seem to shake. Turning 40 a few months back didn't help, and I've only been out of the cult for 2 years now. I'm sure that I'll figure out some way to accept it better later, but this bothers me more than anything since I've left.

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Asking for help with wife

by Are you serious in

hello everyone, my wife wants nothing to do with my awakening.

every time i try explaining something she tells me she doesn't want to hear it.

i believe she's afraid of learning something she's not ready for.

dubstepped

You got to wake up in your own due time. Why shouldn't she? A person has to be ready.

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Warwick Protest 11-5-2017 - Who's all going?

by Acluetofindtheuser in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64xhcoowr6y.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhuvmvbjk-q.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bejhmfrzl0.

dubstepped

I don't think it's a bad idea, depending on how it is done. I like the EDDM campaign, though it could have been written more professionally. I'm curious to see what happens. It seems to me that the best hope is to get the neighbors inoculated against the monstrosity in their back yard. I don't see this impacting the actual organization whatsoever though. It's not my ideal type of activism, but I feel it on a level.

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95 Un-Truths - celebrate 500 years since Diet of Worms

by Anthony Morris DeTurd in

well hello friends.

you may recall the article we published about martin luther: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003686#h=1:0-44:51. at the end of this month it's exactly 500 years since he nailed his list of 95 objections (un-truths) to the door of the catholic church, kicking off the reformation...for which he was invited to the diet of worms (judicial committee) and excommunicated.. also at a similar time to this commemoration, i have been invited to attend an event of the vast apostate army here in warwick (5.11.2017).

i'm worried that someone may compose a list of 95 untruths about us, and nail it to the gates at warwick!.

dubstepped

A cursory glance shows Luther to pose statements rather than questions, so I'll pose a few.

The concept of blood fractions is not found in the Bible.

With that said, the context of scriptures in Acts and other such verses about blood were referencing specific issues of the time.

And in doing so all blood represented taking a life, whereas in today's medical realm blood is not taken from death but rather used to preserve life.

Nowhere in scripture did our Exemplar shun anyone.

Whereas Jehovah's Witnesses teach members to shun, even to isolate from family that was never baptized.

Every human being on earth can grasp the concept of what a generation entails, yet you continue to change its meaning.

Scripture states that the end will comes as a thief, that the day nor the hour does anyone know, yet you continue to try to predict it, the very essence of a doomsday cult.

I could go on and on, but alas there are homes to be cleaned and it is my time to get to it.

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

dubstepped

I'll go ask my mom... oh wait, I'm not allowed to speak to her. Well then, I'll ask my brother, oh wait, the last time I said hi to him at a concert he turned and looked the other way. Fine, I'll ask my sister, except she shuns me too and I have no idea what city she even lives in or who her husband is since I know she was recently married and of course I wasn't invited. I'd ask my dad but he died and I wasn't invited to the memorial.

Okay then, maybe I'll ask my "worldly" family. Uh oh, I haven't seen them in decades since my parents decided when I was 8 or 9 to join a freaking cult.

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California Elder Arrested

by James Jack in

crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .

dubstepped

I honestly can't believe that Fishy hasn't been banned like Richard Oliver yet.

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California Elder Arrested

by James Jack in

crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .

dubstepped

I tried to warn you but you just had to feed the troll and now look how far he gets you from the subject matter. That's how he counts his time. You can utterly destroy his arguments time and again and nothing changes. He's clearly obsessed as we're 14 years into this. He knows about the things he asks about, he's just wasting your time.

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One Year Past Disassociation - An Appraisal

by EdenOne in

two weeks ago marked one year over my disassociation.

time for an appraisal.. quick summary of my story for those who came in lately: my mother brought me into the witnesses when i was 4, grew up the role-model jw boy, baptized at 16, married a zealous reg.

pio.

dubstepped

Thank you so much for sharing. You're right in that leaving (we left 2 years ago) doesn't make life perfect, and it's fascinating to me that you kept family, but that sense of freedom is priceless. I'm happy for all three of you. What a beautiful thing.

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California Elder Arrested

by James Jack in

crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .

dubstepped

Why cast your pearls before swine? Fisherman isn't worth your arguments. He's a trophy, a guy stuck here for 14 years defending disgusting things. Every court needs a jester, a disgusting pedophile defending jester. Someone to obfuscate and deflect, to represent the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses by putting their lack of humanity on full display.

Don't feed the troll. He's proven in this thread, like many others, what caliber of person we're dealing with. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt after his hiatus and thought that maybe he was just a misguided cult victim deserving empathy, and he's proven yet again to be soulless and gross in his defense of his cult teachings, this time going so far as to exploit the misery and pain of people unrelated to the subject matter to defend child sexual abuse just like his cult.

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California Elder Arrested

by James Jack in

crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .

dubstepped

^^^^^Other than taking the heat off your JW brethren what does the above have to do with anything? Shouldn't you be studying for your meeting tomorrow Fishy?

Honestly, the tactic of using the abuse of other children to take the heat off the cult speaks volumes about your character. You are a disgusting human piece of trash.