Just because 2 people had sex and you happened to be the product of it once doesn't mean you owe them anything. He doesn't sound like a great guy from what you've said, though he may be outside of this particular discussion. Humans pine away for the love of parents that are sometimes very broken and toxic. At some point you may determine that he is such and in my view you don't owe them. Move on. In this case, don't let him buy you monetarily. Don't let him extort you. None of this sounds particularly healthy. He seems narcissistic.
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I'm coming back to the forum after 10 months, and new challenges...
by Mandrake ini haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
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Death of a last Grandparent
by ScottyRex instill read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.
recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.
what a flood of emotions that released!
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dubstepped
Sorry for your loss. Love her "well that's bullshit" fire, lol. Thanks for sharing a little of her with us. They say in some eastern cuture that a person dies twice. Once when they physically die, the second time when their name is no longer mentioned. Keep her alive through story.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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@Finklestein - Not only is your remembrance of scripture correct, but among all the verses with specific directions on all types of minutia, there aren't any specifically addressing child sexual abuse. Almighty god forgot about the most vulnerable among us. So why shouldn't the one true organization of his followers among us? It rings true to form, unfortunately.
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JW Baptism Anullment
by Farmer Jim1 inhas anyone ever successfully annulled their jw baptism?
especially if they were very young when baptised?.
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dubstepped
Everyone thinks they have a special way out. Few find one. An annulment has probably happened somewhere along the line, that. ooooo1% chance, and if you go down that path and it doesn't get annulled, you'll be disfellowshipped instead. Fade, get disfellowshipped, or disassociate, those are your real options.
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not a new topic - really a pet peave
by Moster inmakes me crazy:.
there: go over there!.
their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.
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I here you OP. Irregardless of you're education level, we all have some ideal of it's importance and should put these things to use. If you don't use them you loose them. It really flustrates me. Its a pet "peave" of mines to.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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A new low for Fishy. It's the parent's fault their kids were molested. Sure, they had no knowledge but the organization did in cases, but it's anyone's fault but the organization. After all, with great knowledge comes no responsibility, says the pedophile protecting Fisherman. Disgusting.
The cult wants control. Turning over the protection of kids and their insular standing would take power away from them. No narcissist wants that.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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Fisherman19 minutes ago20 minutes ago20 minutes agoNot hard to get df from JW: If you watch porn, or smoke; and if you miss a lot of meetings you get shunned. How much more they will do to someone who is a child molestors. Albeit meetings and fs is not a daycare and parents should not trust anyone with their precious kids -and then blame watchtower.@Fisherman - Do you personally have the opinion that Jehovah's Witnesses handle child sexual abuse allegations in a way that protects children to the best of human abilities? If not, where do you think they fall short? If you do, please highlight the ways in which they best serve children in these cases through their policies.
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People Asking Me To Help Them Leave
by pale.emperor ini dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?
" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.
then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.
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Good for you man! I wish someone I knew would come to me. I'd love to help. I hope that you're able to be that person that so many of us needed on our way out.
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Humans can have answers to any questions
by venus ingod would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .
this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.
(pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?
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dubstepped
Oh dear flying spaghetti monster, deegee's post are all "exceptions" but then you talk about how a lion once saved a lamb? You might want to check the meaning of the word "exceptions".
Also, throwing Forbes around just because you deliver their magazine doesn't build credibility. (Obviously I have no idea what you do there, but my guess is you're not a fact checker.)
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Question about dfed relatives
by awake!watcher indoes anyone know if there is a wt reference that says associating with a dfed relative is a conscience matter?
i am asking because someone is trying to cause trouble and i was hoping there was an article i could point to to shut them up..
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dubstepped
If you don't shun the shunned, you can become the shunned. Happened to us because we stopped shunning after 13 years or so of faithful shunning.