Posts by dubstepped

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What else is there to the so called "Truth"

by jdash in

first of all, i want to say thanks to all of you guys who gave me advice on my first post.

it really helped and i will try to use all of it.

now, i been doing research on what is false about the jdubs.

dubstepped

JWfacts.com is your friend. It's like the Reasoning book but accurate, lol.

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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY

by dogisgod in

i was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.

gated communities.

close to the warwick site.

I can't find it (the search on this site is not fun to use) but someone recently posted a bunch of information (maybe originally from reddit, couldn't hit it there either so maybe I'm using the wrong search terms) showing that the organization owns several homes in gated communities not far from Warwick (I think it was Tuxedo). It was very surprising to see what they owned, complete with images from Google Earth.

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

jw
friends

this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

dubstepped

Welcome Dan! I'm so happy to see you join. I'm friends with your brother on Facebook and keep up with him there too. He's a good person and my guess is that you're a good person too. I know that you're a strong person for being able to stand up for yourself against people that act like bullies.

Nobody should call you disgusting, especially not your family. That's not loving and not right. You did nothing wrong and now they are doing something wrong by treating you badly. Shame on them. I'm sorry that they treated you that way. We have all lost family here.

You'll always have friends here. You don't have to be a copy of us to be our friends like you do in Jehovah's Witnesses. You can just be yourself.

Take care Dan. Have fun here and you can learn a lot too.

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Larry Nasser..... WOW....

by DATA-DOG in

do you think the gb are watching the live report??

will they learn from all this?

are they scared shitless as the reality of social media delivers one bitch-slap of truth after another?

dubstepped

Oooooooh, now I know who he is. He's one sick guy. Sadly, the Borg does a good job of hiding and covering up things internally and discouraging outside interference so I doubt they're worried as an organization. Plus, although I believe the culture of the organization to be ethically guilty of creating an environment where such heinous crimes are committed, legally is a whole other ballgame. I doubt the GB care one iota, other than maybe to protect their precious database of accused. I'd love to see the dubs outed though for the skeletons in their closet.

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Larry Nasser..... WOW....

by DATA-DOG in

do you think the gb are watching the live report??

will they learn from all this?

are they scared shitless as the reality of social media delivers one bitch-slap of truth after another?

dubstepped

Huh?

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Crisis of Conscience where to find?

by Jules Saturn in

does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

thank you.. -jules.

dubstepped

Interesting observation. I never thought about that, though I don't think the governing body ever pushed for JWs to be cleaners or whatever.

I actually was exposed to conversations about evolution and the bible and such while cleaning. There was a pivotal conversation in my awakening process with a cleaning client that asked about JWs and he liked a lot of Buddhist principles. He questioned things based on his experience of living and working in China for some time and really threw us for a loop.

You are right though in that many types of cleaning (not so much residential) or landscaping or whatever are fairly solitary. It is a status quo that benefits the cult which thrives on isolation, much like home schooling and its increasing popularity among JWs.

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Crisis of Conscience where to find?

by Jules Saturn in

does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

thank you.. -jules.

dubstepped

Admittedly I may have thin skin on the topic, but your words didn't just refer to the actual obtaining of a degree but rather people who could have gone to college. Perhaps I'm projecting as I could have gone but didn't and have regrets simply in that it was a challenge I missed out on, or that I get tired of bring treated like a dummy because of what I do for a living. However, it felt like from what I quoted above you were discussing intelligence more than the mere college education. You can have one without the other.

I realize that most cleaners you know didn't go to college, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have or weren't smart enough. There are loads of morons in college, lol. A degree doesn't mean what it used to.

Anyway, glad you found something that works for you. Sounds like you have a good business. There are lots of good businesses out there, many of which require no college. There is so much opportunity out there. In the end it isn't about how much money you make or if you have more degrees than a thermometer, it's about how happy you are in life.

I am one of those that makes decent money. The two of us working together make pretty good money. We are in the trenches every day. As far as money goes, at a point it's not how much you make, but rather what you do with it.

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Crisis of Conscience where to find?

by Jules Saturn in

does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

thank you.. -jules.

dubstepped

jaydee:
@dubstepped....Can you check on that at some point please ,
Because I remember him too, but as I remember it, he never finished off the entire book , before they got pulled.

Hmmm....maybe I never listened to the whole thing then, lol. I don't know, I will check if I remember when I get home tonight. It seemed like the end. It went through his forced disassociation and everything, I thought.

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Crisis of Conscience where to find?

by Jules Saturn in

does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

thank you.. -jules.

dubstepped

never a jw - If I go by what the self employed cleaners tell me, then they make a decent living. This seems to be a very common job for the less educated.
Interestingly enough, in the Hispanic community there's a very common job for the better educated, the type of people who could have gone to ,or actually attended university.

Maybe that was worded strangely, but:

1. Why WOULDN'T you go by what they tell you?

2. It seems like you think that cleaners are not the type that could have actually attended university. You just contrasted the type of person that could have gone to university (better educated) with those that clean (less educated). In neither case did anyone actually attend college though. There are people that get into cleaning with college educations. There are people like me that excelled in school but that couldn't go to college for some reason (in my case cult conditioning).

Being a cleaner of whatever type is looked down on and the janitor is the butt of all of the jokes. However, we actually get to go help people every day. Not all cleaners are created equal just like not all doctors are created equal. Some of us play the role of psychologist, friend, house cleaner, pet sitter, etc. while cleaning. The school janitor is often a confidant of kids at the school. Even the guy that cleans windows often interacts with the employees of the restaurant that he cleans windows at, or the homeowners at the residential homes that he or she cleans, despite the claims made above by another poster.

My wife and I aren't getting rich. We have a good life though. Often far better than those looking down their nose at us. We live within our means. We invest for retirement. We have a wealth of friends and a huge network that was there to support us when we left the cult. Most attended my wife's first birthday party when we got out. We go to their houses for Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years, Halloween, etc.

Those that are self-employed or full business owners have more skills than cleaning a toilet. They have to do their own bookkeeping, accounting, marketing, sales, inventory control, equipment repair, and more. Don't sell people short just because they do a job that many think is beneath them.

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Crisis of Conscience where to find?

by Jules Saturn in

does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

thank you.. -jules.

dubstepped

@respectful observer - I believe that youtube was taken down, probably at the behest of the same people that seem to be making sure the book disappears. I did save a copy of the audio if someone needed it. I'd have to look though. I'm an auditory learner so that was my way of getting the information.

Just looked it up on youtube and found it with some computer generated voice reading it. I had it with a human man that read it aloud, and he did a great job.