Posts by dubstepped

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I had requested them to put shepherding concerns in writing.

by quincemyles in

last week, i had requested the elders to put their shepherding concerns in writing and that only one elder visits me because i am uncomfortable with two.

well, today they approached me and said we are not able to write to you and we are going to see you the two of us.

i felt how inconsiderate and disrespectful of individuals the watchtower machinery is.

dubstepped

First, your example and that magazine from 1986 needs to go to one Mr. Angus Stewart.

Second, why is there only a "like" button? Because I freaking LOVED your first post in this thread. Pure awesomeness.

Third, you will be taken down for apostasy. You're just supposed to blindly follow. Ultimately you're going to be DF'ed or you're going to want to DA. They'll make it uncomfortable to do otherwise.

I just DA'd. It hurts because I know how others will view me and all family will shun me, but honestly it's quite freeing. Those people can't just let me be me. They would have looked down on me and preached to me. No more awkward situations. I don't have to listen to them parrot the latest sayings anymore. They can only judge from afar. Nobody is looking over my shoulder. They can't take Jehovah or Jesus from me, only their co-opting of my relationship with them.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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OMG!!! Guardians of the Doctrine!!! LOL!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

lol!!!!

omg!!

sorry for posting so much today, but i just went to the "imitate wt jewsus" convention and now i'm drinking.

dubstepped

Oh, and here's the pic you requested. I didn't make it, but I'll take the love, lol.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/426830001/guardians-doctrine-illustrated?page=1&size=10

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OMG!!! Guardians of the Doctrine!!! LOL!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

lol!!!!

omg!!

sorry for posting so much today, but i just went to the "imitate wt jewsus" convention and now i'm drinking.

dubstepped

You'll notice that they aren't guardians of the Bible, or God's Word, or "The Truth", but of " The Doctrine". Gotta stick to your doctrinal guns, unless of course the time has passed for your false prophecies.

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New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

hey all,.

have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

isn't this too much of a coincidence?

dubstepped

Just another example of how they do not care about victims in the organization or understand them in the slightest. The last lady that spoke to Jackson (lawyer for BCG?) went specifically to show them the importance of researching the impact on victims and pointed out that they fell short. Then they put out garbage like this to deflect. They don't care to know more and something like this is just evil and cruel.

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jwFairyTale.... Please, please, please, Jehovah

by Brighid in

.... inspire jwfairytale to cover the royal commission.

dubstepped

Never heard of this guy. Got any favorite videos to recommend for starters? It seems that there's quite a few there.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

dubstepped

I just wanted to chime in and tell you that if you decide to do so, it is okay to let go. It takes more strength to let go than it does to continue to engage. If I'm reading this all wrong, feel free to tell me, but from what I read and gathered it just looks like this whole thing is taking a toll on people that are already beat down and fragile (you and your wife). You deserve better than those people. You can fight them tooth and nail and expend tremendous energy that might be better spent loving on yourself and your wife and saving what actually matters. My wife and I just DA'ed (still waiting on elders to find our letter and get their act together enough to make the formal announcement) and it is so freeing. I'm a natural fighter that doesn't go down without getting my licks in. However, I see more and more how that's just my ego trying to control things that are often out of my control. I don't know all of your history or claim to, but I hate to see you getting yourself so worked up over something that doesn't matter, as you say. It doesn't matter, so let it go. Let them go. Save your energy to fight for those things that matter and just send them a DA letter and move on. I know that a lot of people here criticize that strategy as letting them win, but I'm the one sitting here in peace and freedom while others are fighting these intense battles and going through tremendous agony to keep up something that is toxic at best.

Please take these words for what they are, my care for you even though I don't know you. I see the hurt and anger (which usually comes from pain) in your posts. I see you fighting so hard to control how this thing goes down and getting yourself worked up. Please take care of yourself first, and your wife.

Peace.

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What does it mean to be inactive??

by DATA-DOG in

well, i sat through day 1 or the "imitate jesus" convention.

they released the new brochure for inactive ones.

while no tomo-esque rants took place, it seems that the official policy is that "inactivity" merits the death sentence.

dubstepped

Ok. 6 months of zero service = death sentence. Got it.
DD

Of course, as you must know by now, the ONLY activity that counts is driving around in a car wasting time and gas knocking on doors where nobody is home. Nothing else counts as activity. You can be good person that takes an interest in all of those in the congregation that nobody cares about, serve your community in any capacity with intensity for helping others, live an entirely moral life, be generous with your money, energy, and time in other ways, etc., but it doesn't "COUNT". You know, like on a time slip which is all that matters to them. If it can't be reported on that field service time slip, it doesn't matter. You don't matter. The only thing that matters is numbers in accordance with the guidelines they set up for what counts and what doesn't. Life is really only for those that perform up to their narrow standards of what really matters.

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What does it mean to be inactive??

by DATA-DOG in

well, i sat through day 1 or the "imitate jesus" convention.

they released the new brochure for inactive ones.

while no tomo-esque rants took place, it seems that the official policy is that "inactivity" merits the death sentence.

dubstepped

Witness My Fury has it. I think you're irregular if you skip one month of reporting, inactive after 6 consecutive months.

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Alll cruel treatment soon to end the dam has broke

by poopie in

jw
friends

paddy wack.

dubstepped

Uh, no. Shunning and such will continue. Cruelty still exists within the JW religion and will continue to do so. They will likely make some changes to policy on the way that sexual abuse is handled, just enough to satisfy the courts, and that's it. Jackson made it very clear that they have no intent of letting up on their shun fun.

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Standing for Judge Okay - Standing for Anthem Wrong

by berrygerry in

for decades before leaving, i always found this contradiction so hypocritical, and one of the harshest, emotionally damaging, things that this cult does to its young.

dubstepped

Maybe technically it wasn't against the rules, but my parents and others I knew made their kids sit at times. I got in trouble with one teacher over it, and other teachers made me sit out in the hall and walk back into the room when it was over. I eventually wised up to the fact that I could stand without making such a scene and went that route as I got older.