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  How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

  "is he 'in the truth'?".

  most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.

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  dubstepped

  I'm with Punk ^^^^^.

  It is indeed loaded language, used from early on to manipulate people. It instantly puts all other positions in life at a disadvantage, calls them all into question, while deflecting any inclination to question "The Truth". I know it had a powerful affect on me as a rather word literal kid.

  I guess it did have an reverse affect later. I realized that it wasn't some beacon of absolute truth and then every outright lie that I came across stung even more. At a point that loaded language can backfire if one is honest and open minded with themselves.
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  The name of the street in warwick

  by brandnew in

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  did they name the road at warwick?

  kings dr??.

  im so sure......them gb members got some big heads!!

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  'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

  by Verecocha in

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  saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

  what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

  there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

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  To me it sounds like the whole JW thing is just a scapegoat for the bad decision after bad decision made by you two along the way. If you left out the JW part altogether I could see how that probably went wrong. I'm all for blaming the religion where it deserves it, and I don't believe you can divorce anyone from their upbringing in such a controlling and indoctrinating cult, but dude, you guys had dysfunction spread all over this so it isn't surprising that it turned out badly for someone.
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  "Abolish all doubt, and what's left is not faith, but....

  by dubstepped in

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  ... absolute, heartless conviction.

  you're certain that you possess the truth -- inevitably offered with an implied uppercase t -- and this certainty quickly devolves into dogmatism and righteousness, by which i mean a demonstrative, overweening pride in being so very right, in short, the arrogance of fundamentalism.".

  i just thought i'd share this.

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  ... absolute, heartless conviction. You're certain that you possess the Truth -- inevitably offered with an implied uppercase T -- and this certainty quickly devolves into dogmatism and righteousness, by which I mean a demonstrative, overweening pride in being so very right, in short, the arrogance of fundamentalism."

  I just thought I'd share this. I was listening to the TED Radio Hour podcast the other day and stumbled upon this talk. It is an excellent examination of faith and some of it relates things that I noticed while in the Borg, especially the quote I started this thread with. Enjoy:
  

  https://www.ted.com/talks/lesley_hazleton_the_doubt_essential_to_faith?language=en
  
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  Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

  by juandefiero in

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  did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

  the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

  seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

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  Nice point^^^^^^^. Maybe Jehovah caused it because they celebrated birthdays, lol.
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  Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

  by juandefiero in

  1. watchtower
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  did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

  the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

  seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

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  @Juan. Hmmm....maybe I got the successive days idea from them. It's been a while. How about the tornado? If that was during such a feast the dubs would use it like all of the others.
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  Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

  by juandefiero in

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  did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

  the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

  seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

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  If I remember from previous research on the topic the days you're referring to seemed to be celebrated in succession, so unless they were each born one day apart it wouldn't make sense. Additionally, if memory serves it was during one of those times where the kids were all killed by a tornado, again even if they were birthdays not a ringing endorsement.

  With that said, my wife and I kind of celebrated ours for the first time last year, and nothing happened. We did disassociate a couple weeks following my birthday though. Best gift ever.
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  Awake 2016.2 experience

  by nelim in

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  2. bible

  hi all, what do you think about the experience on page 4 of 2016.2 awake?.

  maria, who is one of jehovah’s witnesses, was publicly insulted by a prejudiced woman, who caused quite a commotion.

  but instead of retaliating, maria calmly continued on her way.

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  Oh yeah, as kids both my wife and I had parts on assemblies where we were helped to make our stories "more encouraging" by embellishing and exaggerating. I don't buy much of their stories.
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  Your Jehovah’s Witness Is Showing

  by David_Jay in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i just signed up and posted a few times without doing this yet, here is my story..

  i think that i became a jehovahs witness because of my immaturity.

  i had some quirky personality traits, and i joined finding that i fit in because, as i said to myself: these people get me.

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  dubstepped

  Love this thread. You see it so much on here. Too bad those who show their dubness are often not as humble as you. Often they're too lost in their own hype to consider anyone else, just like the dubs. Beautiful experience, thanks for sharing.
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  Hello, I'm new here too!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everybody, 1st post here.

  20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

  it feels good!.

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  dubstepped

  Good for you and your daughter. Welcome!