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  Just handed in my Disassociation letter

  by Thirteenth tribe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).

  i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.

  i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.

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  13th and Introvert, welcome to the DA club! Enjoy the freedom and have happy lives. Makes my heart glad every time O hear it.
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  Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .

  why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?

  how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?

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  So is this where the "if you DA you're playing by their rules" nonsense started, as if faders somehow get a pass? DAing is a tough enough decision without having your fellow ex-dubs looking down on you for doing it. All the while these faders complain constantly of their family drama caused because they're still in contact and literally playing the JW game day in and day out. Yes, DAing is dropping a bomb on things, toxic things, things that sometimes need it. Reading the article on the site refers to how awful it is to DA, how much regret can be felt. What about the freedom? My wife and I no longer play the game whatsoever since DAing. No more heirs to keep up to appear a certain way. No making excuses for anything. No fear of organizational repercussions. No looking over our shoulders. And we feel go knowing that we took a stand rather than slinking away.

  DAing isn't for everyone. I get that. But it isn't some lesser form of leaving, so cowardly playing of their game. It is taking a stand, not shying away. It is ending the game once and for all, not playing it.
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  DF'ed arrival/departure times at meetings

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i didn't want to derail another thread, but something said made me wonder.

  i know that i noticed df'ed people come in right when the meeting started and leave right when it left most of the time.

  is that some sort of actual rule?

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  Yeah, I understand that it is awkward. In the other thread someone mentioned an elder speaking angrily with a DF'ed person for getting there 10 minutes early. That's ridiculous. I understand that it may be awkward for the DF'ed person, but for some it may be more awkward to hide out until the meeting starts or time things to get there at the last second just so nobody has to see their shame.
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  DF'ed arrival/departure times at meetings

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i didn't want to derail another thread, but something said made me wonder.

  i know that i noticed df'ed people come in right when the meeting started and leave right when it left most of the time.

  is that some sort of actual rule?

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  I didn't want to derail another thread, but something said made me wonder. I know that I noticed DF'ed people come in right when the meeting started and leave right when it left most of the time. Is that some sort of actual rule? Is that written somewhere that "thou shalt not make people uncomfortable with your presence"? "Thou shall arriveth at the birth of the meeting and leaveth at its end"? Does someone keep a stopwatch on these poor people? It's such a sickening way to treat people overall, but telling people how long they can sit in the auditorium because they're basically lepers now seems to add another layer of awful to it.

  I'm DA'd, and have NO desire to ever set foot in a KH again, but part of me hears something like that and wants to just go sit right in the middle of everyone the whole time, walk up to people to talk, and make them all as uncomfortable as humanly possible. It's so ridiculous and the assholery knows no bounds with them, I just want to let them experience it from the other side.
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  I have too much crap!! How to declutter/dehoard.....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some areas of our home are very nice, tidy, clean.

  and other rooms are just junk and clutter and clothes and papers.... omg.

  and now that we are getting older, we realize that we face a time of transition -- and this is hard to cope with too, as we believed the lie that we would never get old, etc.

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  I rented a dumpster once and threw most of it all away. I gave away some nicer stuff on Craigslist for free and tossed the rest. The key afterward is to adopt a minimalist view of material things. It is tough. We made a lot of progress, but we still have a way to go. I said for years that I'd sell the stuff and never did, so I just gave it away. Recognize that a lot of reasons are just excuses in this area of life. Hope that helps.
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  If all the world were JWs....

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

  but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

  first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

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  It would be one of the dumbest societies in history. No discoveries would be made. Home-schooled people that passed courses a monkey could ace would rule the world.

  There wouldn't be the harmony among people that they preach. Instead there would be cliques and backbiting as people tried to gain prominence just like in most congregations.

  People would die without doctors, though they'd have plenty of quackery to practice. Supplements and weird contraptions from Radio Shack would convince us that we'd be healed from various cancers.

  Without any preaching to do people would have no way to prove their worth. Depression would be even worse among the ranks as these people have nothing else in their miserable lives to bring them joy.

  Pedophilia would run rampant as there would be no governmental authorities to try to make the organization take it seriously.

  Sounds fun! Where do I sign up?
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  Watching from the outside - and a question at the end if TL;DR

  by unfamiliar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i grew up in a jw family.

  i was the youngest, and i never really felt like my questions were answered in a satisfying way, so i kind of gradually faded and i was thankfully never baptized (hooray for me).

  i kept going to family study time until i was about 27 (!

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  Where have you been, lol. When I was a kid in the 80's I wasn't supposed to get old enough to drive, graduate, get married, certainly not approach 40. Armageddon is always tomorrow for them and they can't wait for billions to die so long as they get to pet pandas one day earlier.
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  FEB 2016 broadcast

  by Grey Goose in

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  it might be the craziest one yet..

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  Why does it have to be white bread for? Where's my ryes and pumpernickels at? Lol. And I love garlic bread. That was the dumbest illustration ever on so many levels. The "poison" actually saturated less than the mud he used and could also have been cut away. They just make stuff up and see how stupid people are. They must take bets behind the scenes on what they can get away with.
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  Hey Everyone! Recently "DA'd!"

  by jacobm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just "da'd" friday.

  i've been posting on here for years but do to anonymity, i had to start with a new account.

  would love to connect with anyone that i may know.

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  Welcome to the land of disassociation! My wife and I DA'd in September. It is so freeing not to have to play their games anymore and to get a fresh start. It felt amazing for us to take a stand too. We took one to get in that mess, and it was great to take one while leaving. Good for you!
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  First Born Syndrom? -

  by elderINewton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it just me or does it seem like a large portion of first born children leave the "truth" or find ttatt?

  its weird for me, but of all the other people out i know (only about 20 ish) they are all first borns, and usually the wife is as well.

  just looking at this from a different lens and curious if others see the same.

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  dubstepped

  My wife and I were both the firstborn in our respective families, and we both left and disassociated together.