Weren't others encouraged to sell homes and simplify back then? I wasn't alive then, but have seen evidence of extreme pressure on the rank and file to leave their material things. So hypocritical.
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The world is about to come to its end and what does the Watchtower do?
by Crazyguy inthey buy a hotel!
yep in 1975 when the world was about to come to its end the borg buys the brooklyn hotel for 2 million dollars.
this information has come out now do to the fact they have put up this property for sale.
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I'm getting disfellowshipped
by raven inhi everyone, a bit of an update here on my continuing disaster of a situation.. (refer to my previous posts for the full story) my mom met with me yesterday for dinner, it was nice.. however, she brought up the fact that because i live with my boyfriend and how everything has gone down, i will be disfellowshipped.. i think the elders basically have enough proof of this.. due to the anonymous tipper (still have no clue who it was, i live in another town 100's of miles away from my old congregation territory), and my mom telling them.
i'm not sure when they will announce it, or if they will contact me prior.. at this point i feel so emotionally dead i don't care- on the other hand, i don't want to be disfellowshipped because i do not want to loose a relationship with my mom.
that is the whole reason i tried fading out.. .
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dubstepped
I'm sorry that you're in this place right now. It is an unfair place to be put in. There are indeed mothers that speak to DFed kids, but we all know that's a small percentage.
I know things look bleak, but you have other people in your life. Remember that scripture about losing mothers and fathers etc. but gaining them tenfold or some such number? It is true. My wife and I both lost everyone. But we gained so many new friends and people sticking closer than a brother. We have a rich life and it won't be a year until September since we DA'd. You can have that too. You can't control your mom's reaction to this. She turned you in on whatever level, and thinks she's doing you a favor. How messed up is that?
Pain is temporary. Don't do anything rash that lasts forever. Keep your chin up, keep coming here for support. Maybe get a therapist. And realize that the whole world is open to you now. You will be free, and people aren't scary, and you can have more relationships now than ever before. Family is what you make it. Welcome to the worldwide family. Tell your story, be vulnerable, and you can find friends among healthy people.
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I think they may still use the word disfellowshipped in some countries. I thought that one of the reasons they stopped in others was something to do with slander or privacy laws or something. I could be way wrong though. Maybe in that country they don't have issues with that.
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It's all about poor, poor them. The daughter is of no consequence really. The parents are hurting. Jehovah is hurting. The congregation is hurting. Aw, poor things. Eff them all.
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Christian Science - Religious Abuse
by dubstepped inso i'm listening to an episode of the mental illness happy hour (mentalpod.com) about a lady that left christian science.
they like to throw around the phrase "the truth" a lot, read publications constantly and discuss at church, think they're better than others because they know "the truth", deny things that go on, etc.
her mom is a narcissist, and the religion is very narcissistic.
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The lady in the interview bought a four-plex or something larger (can't remember) just 5 days before Katrina hit. She hadn't even got the keys, and of course lost everything she just bought in the storm. Her mom denied that it happened. They seem to kind of believe that none of this is real, it is just some manifestation of our thoughts or not following the "truth" or something. Very strange.
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I subscribe to your podcast but this file is incredibly large at over 1.2gb or so. Couldn't play it. If you guys can use a different format more people could listen through the podcast.
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Christian Science - Religious Abuse
by dubstepped inso i'm listening to an episode of the mental illness happy hour (mentalpod.com) about a lady that left christian science.
they like to throw around the phrase "the truth" a lot, read publications constantly and discuss at church, think they're better than others because they know "the truth", deny things that go on, etc.
her mom is a narcissist, and the religion is very narcissistic.
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So I'm listening to an episode of The Mental Illness Happy Hour (Mentalpod.com) about a lady that left Christian Science. They like to throw around the phrase "the truth" a lot, read publications constantly and discuss at church, think they're better than others because they know "the truth", deny things that go on, etc. Her mom is a narcissist, and the religion is very narcissistic. It all sounds so familiar.
And then I remember that MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN CHRISTIAN SCIENCE. Dammit, my mom just followed the same general path but with the JWs. It is fascinating to see the patterns. We happened to move into a house next door to JWs, and that's how my mom started studying. The rest is cult history. My mom certainly seems narcissistic. As a kid I never got medical treatment and chalked it up to not having money, but I also knew that nobody cared. It's kind of depressing to look back and see the extreme dysfunction. It's also a source of pride that i got emotionally healthy on my own and live a good life now.
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May 21, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Annual Items for 2017
by wifibandit inmay 21, 2016 to all congregations re: annual items for 2017.
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I don't see how they're dead. They just "evolved" from the WTBTS into JW.Borg. No way they're dead.
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Random Musings
by dubstepped inevery so often something strikes me about the dubs or bible as i read on here or just think.
not all are topic worthy, but i like thinking about things in different ways and when others share little things that struck them.
i'll share two for now, feel free to add your own to the list.. i was thinking the other day about the scripture saying the "for a certainty i perceive that god is not partial".
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Every so often something strikes me about the dubs or Bible as I read on here or just think. Not all are topic worthy, but I like thinking about things in different ways and when others share little things that struck them. I'll share two for now, feel free to add your own to the list.
I was thinking the other day about the scripture saying the "for a certainty I perceive that God is not partial". Hard to reconcile that with him having a "chosen people" and annihilating others to give them whatever. Also, he seems pretty partial when destroying billions of non-dubs at Armageddon.
"Millions now living will never die.". More like "more people will die holding fast to this belief than will ever walk into panda paradise without having to die", and that's a best case scenario assuming any validity to their doctrine. It should be a mind-f@!k to anyone not living in dissonance every time someone dies.
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She displayed a literature cart in front of my house: That does it for me!
by Tempest in a Teacup inis this something they've asked them to do?
cart displays in front of their homes?
my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.
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Er....I'll tell you what she brings SHES HER MOTHER....jeeze
Whew, thanks for clarifying that for me. I'll say the same thing I said just after that post you quoted. Just because someone had sex that they wanted to have and a kid was the byproduct, that doesn't make one forever obligated to that person. Yes, some people are great mothers and do so out of love and care, and others out of narcissism and control. The latter doesn't really care about their kids, so why should their kids care about them? Nobody is obliged to owe something to others just because they're related. Birthing a child doesn't make a person some magical entity deserving everlasting praise and care if they never gave it to you. I asked because I don't know their relationship. The OP doesn't have to live with crazy and support a grown adult that is toxic. You may feel differently, and go right ahead. The pedestal that moms or dads are placed on automatically is the cause of a ton of dysfunction and toxic relationships.