Posts by dubstepped

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The Latest Trend in NW England: Homeschooling Your Children

by pale.emperor in

i dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally.

but im hearing more and more people i knew from my jw days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead.

in my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school.

dubstepped

Every kid I knew that was home-schooled fared badly. For most it was just an excuse for lonely moms to keep kids around, for kids to somehow count field service and indoctrination as their school work, and to avoid any worldly association. Many didn't graduate and got a GED at best. They learned that education isn't valuable. I remember looking at the books my sister had as she graduated from Penn Foster's home program and thinking that it was on par with what I did in middle school. I'm glad I got to go through "traditional" programs and wish I had gone to college. From every experience I've seen, home schooling is a joke.

Most lacked social skills too. It isn't just the actual book learning that suffers.

In our area of the United States (Indiana/Kentucky) more and more were turning to home schooling when we left.

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My mom is into "The Secret"

by BlackWolf in

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lately my mom's gotten into all kinds of weird "power of positive thinking" kind of stuff.

she watches "the secret" and bob proctor videos all the time, and now she's trying to get me into it.

to me her being into this sort of thing seems kind of hypocritical.

dubstepped

Wow, I'm not surprised that a JW is into this, though I'm surprised on some level that it would be okay. In the end, isn't prayer and The Secret kind of the same thing? Think positive thoughts and Jehovah/the universe/fairies will bring it to you. There is some connection between thinking positively and being able to achieve things, which is obvious, but these things usually go much farther.

I'll be happy for you when you're able to get out and away from this stuff. Time is moving, hopefully you'll be able to as well. I know you love your parents and want what's best for them. I'm sorry that you have to witness their issues on display though. They clearly need help, both of them, real mental and emotional help, not woo designed to make them feel good, but real life changes that are grounded and make them feel good.

I doubt the WT has taken a hard stance on this particular program, though they may have alluded to it at some point. Someone with more research ability can find that. To me the bigger issue is that is shows how impressionable your mom is, and that just honestly makes me sad for her.............and you.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

dubstepped

Coincidence that Fishy throws in the towel and his other half RO shows up? I think not.

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Women are a "stack of bones and a hank of hair" - J.F. Rutherford

by krismalone in

i have heard rumors and anecdotes of j.f.

rutherford calling women "a hank of hair and a stack of bones" but i never thought it was documented.

well thanks to jwfacts i finally found the quote in print.. this j.f.

dubstepped

Just because that was a quote doesn't mean that he wasn't dissing women. He's the asshat that chose to quote that. He put pursuing women down. He clearly didn't respect the pursuit of a relationship. That's also just one of the things he said. Guy clearly didn't think highly of women. I'm surprised to see women taking up for him.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

dubstepped

Fisherman, casting a line and getting eaten alive for 13 years on here. You may start fights you can't win, but you can hold your head high knowing that you started it.

Nice work here Cofty. I'm kind of glad Fishy bumped this, not just to watch him lose again, but these are very interesting thoughts. The JW teaching on blood just doesn't hold up under any reason. One can pick and choose a verse, take it literally and without context, but that's something religions of the world do that JWs condemn. JWs would certainly never do that, lol

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Are people free to leaving the Witnesses, and shunning.

by ThomasCovenant in

is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.

in my own case, yes.

i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.

dubstepped

Congratulations, but your case is yours and yours alone. If you've been here any time you know it to be different for different people. Mr. Jackson knows better too.

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New Tactic for Jehovah's Witnesses

by compound complex in

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bbc's comments on the trolley/cart work:.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28166192.

dubstepped

The movement doesn't have figures for how many converts this part of its mission has produced. And it's emphasised that it's an addition rather than a departure from the door-to-door evangelism, but adherents are optimistic that the new tactic is making an impact.

I like this quote from the article because it shows what the carts are really about. JWs get discouraged by the door to door ministry because nobody is ever home and they spend hours doing nothing. Now they still do nothing, but at least they're around people, there's a buzz around them, and they can always reason that merely by being seen they are witnessing. They also have to be approved to do this particular work, so they feel special. It is busy work aimed at keeping the illusion alive that they're really helping people. We all know that statistically they bring in few outsiders and most growth is from within. They don't want real numbers on things that matter, like converts from their work, they only want numbers based on activity (hours, placements, etc.). It's all for show.

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Non-Witness in Love with Lesbian Witness

by Siraphina in

i'm hoping someone here can help, advise or councel me regarding my dilemma because i'm desperate and dying inside.

here is my story: i'm an out, non-witness lesbian in love with an active jw lesbian.

she's very much in love with me as well but her guilt as a result of her religion is emotionally devistating her.

dubstepped

@lusitano - This thread was about a specific experience of a person 11 years ago. Learn how to forum. Why were you searching for this? Start your own thread about it if you have a question or discussion about the subject as it pertains to you and not this person's struggle.

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Worldwide campaign : Go to memorial , watch with respect and eat the emblems!

by lusitano o tuga in

hey, ex-jw guys , .

if you believe in the bible and claim to be a christian, we invite you to attend the memorial this year in a place that.

the peoples don´t know you´re disfellowshipped and obey what jesus said in john chapter 6 and apostle paul tought in .

dubstepped

I like this guy. If he doesn't get immediate attention, he talks to himself. Not a bad strategy. Lol @ Outlaw's post.

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Those married to "still in" JWs

by NikL in

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kind of got into it with my jw wife last night for the first time in a long time.. i try to not engage in conversations about doctrinal matters unless she asks me which she did.. anyway, i wont go into details but of course i am "not going to change her mind" and "why is it that you can't see when very smart people can?

" yada yada yada.

you probably can imagine.. it makes me so depressed.

dubstepped

You can't be who you're not, and it's not fair for her to expect you to be. She would cry persecution from an unbelieving spouse if you pressured her like she does you. Stop going. Reclaim your own life and autonomy. Be respectful of her right to worship and ask for the same in return.