Posts by dubstepped

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Witness Royalty and the last day at the "Towers"

by Lynnie in

my uber elder cousin and his wife got the "privilege" of having one last "toast" of wine at the rooftop garden at the towers in nyc since the jw's are vacating to warwick.

his oldest daughter and son in law are quite high up in the inner circle so they get invited to all the "inner circle" activities.

even though they aren't supposed to toast to anything it was pretty darn close.

dubstepped

Hey Fishy, since you know so much and everything you say is truth in reply to what eveyone else says, and since you like to dominate other people's threads with your blather, I have a challenge for you.

Why don't you start a thread where you can, in one cohesive space, tell your story. I challenge you to do so. Where did you come from? Where have you been in the organization? What did you make of what you saw? Where are you now in life, in your spiritual walk, officially within the organization? Why have you been here for 14 years? What do you have to hide?

Other people are vulnerable here and put their lives out there. If you want credibility, instead of jumping around scrutinizing things you don't like that others say and trying to dominate and obfuscate, build trust by putting your own story out there. Man up and get vulnerable and show courage. Be willing to give an answer to anyone that should ask it of you. Who are you, other than someone that defends the cult at every turn, including trying to derail talks of child sexual abuse in the group. Surely there is more to you than that. You post some things that allude to interesting travels. Share brother Fishy, do share.

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Facing My Mortality And Becoming A Donor

by pale.emperor in

this thread is quite morbid so i apologize in advance.. a few days ago i was having a conversation with my girlfriend in which she mentioned in passing that she's signed up to donate her organs after her death.

i was quite surprised because she mentioned it like it was no big deal.

i asked her which organs.

dubstepped

Good for you. I have a friend that works for the local "donate life" group and have always seen her Facebook posts but it's just now hitting me too.

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

So I was just thinking about this, as I do far too much, and was struck by something that I often say to people when they lose someone. If it hurts that means you had something worth losing. When my dad died it didn't hurt much. I probably mourned more for the dad I never had than the one I did.

So if I flip that around, I guess maybe if it hurts more to leave this planet it's because your life was worth something. If it didn't mean much and was one of resignation, then maybe it doesn't hurt as much to leave unless one has regrets. I have too much to do and experience to leave. I want my life to mean something now that I can see clearly, and it devastates me on a level to know that will end someday.

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

I see things kind of the opposite of punkofnice above. For me my brevity here on this earth imbues MORE meaning into this life that I have. This is it and I want to make the most of it.

Additionally, I see life today as that magic I always looked for in the promised future. The odds that the sperm and egg made me, that there was a successful birth, that I made it out of childhood, didn't kill myself in a car wreck when first driving, that I didn't commit suicide when I wanted to in 2008 because of this awful cult, that I made it to 40, etc.... are the things I try to focus on. They keep me grounded and present. It's hard to be grateful and miserable at the same time.

And yet I still struggle with that eventual goodbye that will come.

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matured mentally

by Akid48 in

i dont know if any one else is feeling this but after waking up i feel like i matured mentally etc.. im only 13 maybe its just me but i wanted to know if any had this feeling just a quick post..

dubstepped

Absolutely, and for you this young to see things clearly while surrounded by delusional adults, you've got to feel so much more mature. Good for you.

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

I'm with you stuckinarut. This is the one thing that messes with me pretty bad after leaving the cult two years ago. As someone else said, I'm not afraid of being dead, as I've been there before I was alive. I believe that may be a Twain quote. I don't look forward to the pain or even the medical issues that will one day come. I hate doctors and am squeamish.

When I go to bed at night I am often plagued in the silence by thoughts of death. It is one way where the cult really messed me up. Again, what gets to me is not the fear of being dead, I just don't want to have to say goodbye one day. I don't want to say goodbye to my wife, that crushes me, whether it be myself or her that goes out first. I don't want to have to see her go through pain either. I truly bought the cult's promise hood, line, and sinker. I was promised permanence and I expected it. Now that I'm out I realize that everything points to impermanence from the seasons to the breakdown of everything around me. I like that the Buddhists seem to teach impermanence on the whole.

So yeah, I struggle a lot with this. It honestly dominates me more than I would like to admit. When I was a kid my grandpa told me that we were going to the circus and that we'd have a ball. When he showed up without a ball I was devastated. So I always had a tendency to really buy in and take things word literal. Obviously not so much now, but my whole worldview was based around that filthy cult's teachings. It's in my head and the death thing is the one thing I can't seem to shake. Turning 40 a few months back didn't help, and I've only been out of the cult for 2 years now. I'm sure that I'll figure out some way to accept it better later, but this bothers me more than anything since I've left.

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Asking for help with wife

by Are you serious in

hello everyone, my wife wants nothing to do with my awakening.

every time i try explaining something she tells me she doesn't want to hear it.

i believe she's afraid of learning something she's not ready for.

dubstepped

You got to wake up in your own due time. Why shouldn't she? A person has to be ready.

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Warwick Protest 11-5-2017 - Who's all going?

by Acluetofindtheuser in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64xhcoowr6y.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhuvmvbjk-q.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bejhmfrzl0.

dubstepped

I don't think it's a bad idea, depending on how it is done. I like the EDDM campaign, though it could have been written more professionally. I'm curious to see what happens. It seems to me that the best hope is to get the neighbors inoculated against the monstrosity in their back yard. I don't see this impacting the actual organization whatsoever though. It's not my ideal type of activism, but I feel it on a level.

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95 Un-Truths - celebrate 500 years since Diet of Worms

by Anthony Morris DeTurd in

well hello friends.

you may recall the article we published about martin luther: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003686#h=1:0-44:51. at the end of this month it's exactly 500 years since he nailed his list of 95 objections (un-truths) to the door of the catholic church, kicking off the reformation...for which he was invited to the diet of worms (judicial committee) and excommunicated.. also at a similar time to this commemoration, i have been invited to attend an event of the vast apostate army here in warwick (5.11.2017).

i'm worried that someone may compose a list of 95 untruths about us, and nail it to the gates at warwick!.

dubstepped

A cursory glance shows Luther to pose statements rather than questions, so I'll pose a few.

The concept of blood fractions is not found in the Bible.

With that said, the context of scriptures in Acts and other such verses about blood were referencing specific issues of the time.

And in doing so all blood represented taking a life, whereas in today's medical realm blood is not taken from death but rather used to preserve life.

Nowhere in scripture did our Exemplar shun anyone.

Whereas Jehovah's Witnesses teach members to shun, even to isolate from family that was never baptized.

Every human being on earth can grasp the concept of what a generation entails, yet you continue to change its meaning.

Scripture states that the end will comes as a thief, that the day nor the hour does anyone know, yet you continue to try to predict it, the very essence of a doomsday cult.

I could go on and on, but alas there are homes to be cleaned and it is my time to get to it.

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

dubstepped

I'll go ask my mom... oh wait, I'm not allowed to speak to her. Well then, I'll ask my brother, oh wait, the last time I said hi to him at a concert he turned and looked the other way. Fine, I'll ask my sister, except she shuns me too and I have no idea what city she even lives in or who her husband is since I know she was recently married and of course I wasn't invited. I'd ask my dad but he died and I wasn't invited to the memorial.

Okay then, maybe I'll ask my "worldly" family. Uh oh, I haven't seen them in decades since my parents decided when I was 8 or 9 to join a freaking cult.