i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.
i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.
help a former brother out.
Ah man, I was hoping for another 1975. Come on governing body, can't we at least get Tight Pants Tony to stick his neck out there and say something stupid? I was hoping this was a thing.
Thanks for ruining my early Christmas present PE ya grinch, lol.
i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.
i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.
help a former brother out.
I've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work. I saw someone on Reddit in July saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the JW message, and I've now seen two references to this in the past week. Help a former brother out. Anyone got any hard info on this? Are the magazines out yet for January?
i haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
Just because 2 people had sex and you happened to be the product of it once doesn't mean you owe them anything. He doesn't sound like a great guy from what you've said, though he may be outside of this particular discussion. Humans pine away for the love of parents that are sometimes very broken and toxic. At some point you may determine that he is such and in my view you don't owe them. Move on. In this case, don't let him buy you monetarily. Don't let him extort you. None of this sounds particularly healthy. He seems narcissistic.
still read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.
recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.
what a flood of emotions that released!
Sorry for your loss. Love her "well that's bullshit" fire, lol. Thanks for sharing a little of her with us. They say in some eastern cuture that a person dies twice. Once when they physically die, the second time when their name is no longer mentioned. Keep her alive through story.
what do you think there hiding?.
@Finklestein - Not only is your remembrance of scripture correct, but among all the verses with specific directions on all types of minutia, there aren't any specifically addressing child sexual abuse. Almighty god forgot about the most vulnerable among us. So why shouldn't the one true organization of his followers among us? It rings true to form, unfortunately.
has anyone ever successfully annulled their jw baptism?
especially if they were very young when baptised?.
Everyone thinks they have a special way out. Few find one. An annulment has probably happened somewhere along the line, that. ooooo1% chance, and if you go down that path and it doesn't get annulled, you'll be disfellowshipped instead. Fade, get disfellowshipped, or disassociate, those are your real options.
makes me crazy:.
there: go over there!.
their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.
I here you OP. Irregardless of you're education level, we all have some ideal of it's importance and should put these things to use. If you don't use them you loose them. It really flustrates me. Its a pet "peave" of mines to.
what do you think there hiding?.
A new low for Fishy. It's the parent's fault their kids were molested. Sure, they had no knowledge but the organization did in cases, but it's anyone's fault but the organization. After all, with great knowledge comes no responsibility, says the pedophile protecting Fisherman. Disgusting.
The cult wants control. Turning over the protection of kids and their insular standing would take power away from them. No narcissist wants that.
what do you think there hiding?.
Fisherman19 minutes ago20 minutes ago20 minutes agoNot hard to get df from JW: If you watch porn, or smoke; and if you miss a lot of meetings you get shunned. How much more they will do to someone who is a child molestors. Albeit meetings and fs is not a daycare and parents should not trust anyone with their precious kids -and then blame watchtower.
@Fisherman - Do you personally have the opinion that Jehovah's Witnesses handle child sexual abuse allegations in a way that protects children to the best of human abilities? If not, where do you think they fall short? If you do, please highlight the ways in which they best serve children in these cases through their policies.
i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?
" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.
then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.
Good for you man! I wish someone I knew would come to me. I'd love to help. I hope that you're able to be that person that so many of us needed on our way out.
