Nope. I'm dead to all of those people and none came to my funeral. They all died a couple years back. My dad died 6 months after I disassociated. I wasn't welcome at his memorial. I did see some family at hospice, and that getting dragged in and out at their behest is a mind fuck. I learned my lesson. I won't be present for anything, nor will they be present if anything should happen to me. The deaths already occurred.
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Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?
by minimus insome of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.
so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.
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Come on, Mainstream Media!
by Wild_Thing init has been sickening to read the most recently leaked documents by faithleaks.
it makes me so angry because so many of us have experienced first hand the horrible policies of the watchtower on abuse.
i feel like these documents are finally the smoking gun we have all been hoping to expose the watchtower, and so far, the only mainstream news that i have seen pick it up is newsweek.. what will it take for the mainstream media pick this up and give it the attention it deserves?
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Dailymail in UK picked it up too. Saw it on Facebook. Yeah, I'm with you though, I want to see it blow up.
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Anyone struggle to find meaning in life?
by Good JW injust wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?
when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.
i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).
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Happiness is the ultimate currency.
That is a point I learned from a book called "Happier" by Tal Ben-Shahar long before leaving the cult. Most of what we do as human beings is in the pursuit of happiness. Sometimes we miss the mark, but that's what we're driven toward.
So what makes you happy? For me it's being with my wife, challenging myself, helping others to be happier, etc. So I do things to get me closer to those things that bring me happiness. Maybe there's no eternal mark I can leave on the world. Maybe there's no eternity for me. But I can try to be as happy as possible while I'm here, and I'm talking genuine happiness, not escaping. When I'm present and happy then what else could I ask for that's not a fairy tale?
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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?
by nicolaou inif you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.
what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?
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Fisherman - If God exists, he must be greater than you morally. An inferior being is not God.
Thanks for proving that there is no god. That was simple, no? Or would you slaughter babies and let women be raped? If you wouldn't, congrats! my friend, you just woke up to the reality of a godless world. There is no god. Go be happy and stop serving something that doesn't exist. That usually gets one placed in a mental ward. Others just call it religion.
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An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me
by pale.emperor insince leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.
two of which are life drawing and photography.
i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.
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Pubsinger - Usual hypocrisy. When it suits them.
You mean when it birthday suits them. ;)
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JW story - "husbands JW beliefs ruining the family" - on Dr. Phil today
by ShirleyW in"my husbands religious beliefs are ruining our family" is the topic.
i"m not home when it airs on cbs in the afternoon so i watch a rerun on ch 55 here in nyc at 8pm.
i have my cable box all set to switch over at the appropriate time..
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Whew, just watched that and the lady needs to quit being so defensive. I think she may be for a few reasons. First, she said something to those elders about her husband or they wouldn't have called CPS. She acts like she doesn't know what was said. Come on. There will be repercussions maritally though, so she's trying to plead ignorance. Second, she's lived a life that was unfair to her already as a JW. Third, she is the bad guy for leaving the JWs and went through that unfair process. So I get her anger, but like he said, she needs to be less combative.
Ultimately I thought it was a great anti-witness. There were numerous and legitimate shots at JWs. I thought Dr. Phil handled it all quite well. He even went so far as to have an ex-JW counselor from Free Minds offer help and an ex-JW person chime in at the very end. So he no doubt knows what a cult it is. I thought the husband looked pissed off after those two ex-dubs were brought in, lol.
All in all, a good show. I feel for the kids caught up in this mess.
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JW story - "husbands JW beliefs ruining the family" - on Dr. Phil today
by ShirleyW in"my husbands religious beliefs are ruining our family" is the topic.
i"m not home when it airs on cbs in the afternoon so i watch a rerun on ch 55 here in nyc at 8pm.
i have my cable box all set to switch over at the appropriate time..
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@Londo - He'd fit in well here at times.
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I am getting disfellowshipped
by CitizenofEarth inmaybe some of you remember me, maybe not.
for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.
for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.
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I guess I'll be that one person that tells you it's your life and go if you want. Don't feel compelled to go for sure, and don't think you're going to beat them in a rigged game. However, if it makes you feel good to go, if you find closure in it, if you just feel like it is how you want to go out for any reason, it's your life. If I listened to others I wouldn't have disassociated and that was one of the best decisions of my life. Do you. Listen to everyone here but make your own decision. You're not in a cult anymore.
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Do You Know Any “Gay” Jehovah’s Witnesses?
by minimus inof course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?
i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.
they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..
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I certainly knew some to leave and then express their homosexuality. Good for them.
I knew men that were effeminate but that doesn't mean they were necessarily gay, and I knew women that were man haters but that doesn't mean they were gay either.
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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?
by nicolaou inif you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.
what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?
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A human's natural response is to fight, flee, or freeze. These are natural reactions, not moral ones. It's judgy humans that tend to moralize the natural. Inaction like freezing may still be an action, freezing. Humans don't always get to choose how they react, like a victim of sexual crime may freeze in the moment. It's a natural response but some moralize it, resulting in further shame for the victim.
I think the error is in your original post when you use the word "choose". That is a moral judgment itself. At times we choose, at times we act in whatever way our natural overwhelmed reaction is. Ascribing choice makes it a question of morality, which may or may not be fair. We humans like to pretend we're in more control than we are. Likely a person may regret their inaction in the moment, but in the moment their natural systems took over their power of choice.