I'm in contact with a reporter on the story. He's hoping to hear more about the suicide note tomorrow if possible.
My guess is that there's a lot more to this story. I bet it runs really deep. Hopefully more comes out.
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Jehovah Witness family murder suicide
by wannaexit inso sad!!!!!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.
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Jehovah Witness family murder suicide
by wannaexit inso sad!!!!!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.
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dubstepped
There would be no memorial if they were shunned. I got the feeling they all were, but I don't know for sure.
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Jehovah Witness family murder suicide
by wannaexit inso sad!!!!!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.
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dubstepped
Oh, and the lady speaking up was an exjw, as of 30 years ago, from an article I read.
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Jehovah Witness family murder suicide
by wannaexit inso sad!!!!!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.
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dubstepped
Yep, nobody at the KH treated her with humanity as a hurting person. They were more concerned about the meeting going on.
They also called the police on her. I guess they DO know the number for 911, just not when children are being raped.
The long suicide note left by the mom should be telling if ever made public. It's all just heartbreaking. Well, not to JWs who have had their humanity stripped by their cult leaders, but for normal people.
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Boyfriend force me to study the bible or no marriage
by MuslimWoman inmy boyfriend, who is a disfellowshipped jehova's witness, asks me to study the bible for 3 months or he won't marry me (i'm a muslim woman).
he loves me and really wants to marry me but he is doing a passive blackmailing: if i don't study for 3 months, 1 time per week, in my home country, and without him, there will be no marriage... as a muslim, i believe the bible is god's word so i look at the bible from time to time and would be happy to study with him.
but the fact that he is kind of saying "study the bible or bye bye no marriage" is really hurtful.
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dubstepped
Like I said earlier, you can't make them realize. Only if they have doubts and are ready can they see anything. Steve Hassan (look up his books) says that things like watching a documentary on another cult (like Leah Remini's show on Scientology) can sometimes help people see the similarities between other cults and their own and shake them a bit. Still, many in here have family that watch it and don't see similarities.
If a person is blind they cannot see and you cannot make them see. He doesn't get to force you to be a JW and you don't get to force him not to be a JW. It's up to him, not you.
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Final Episode of David's Story regarding sexual abuse and Jehovah's Witnesses was released today....
by dubstepped ini've just released the final podcast from david's story which is a bonus episode formed from a discussion that we had in the pre-interview.
i think that it contained some valuable information and insights through our discussion of not just the response (or lack thereof) to sexual abuse within the cult of jehovah's witnesses, but also about other related matters.. i hope that david's openness about his life has made an impact on others, and invite any that listen to leave him a word of encouragement at http://shunnedpodcast.com/episodes/ under either episode 6, 7, or 8, all relating to his story.
i was fortunate enough to be able to take part in the telling of his story and it has impacted me for sure.. you can find the "shunned" podcast on itunes (apple podcasts), google play, wherever you choose to get podcasts, or streaming right from my site on the page linked above.
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dubstepped
Glad there are listeners here to share it with!
This weekend I'm interviewing this site's own Pale Emperor. I'm also interviewing a woman that fled the FLDS cult. On top of that I have three more possible interviews. Could be a long and fascinating weekend.
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Boyfriend force me to study the bible or no marriage
by MuslimWoman inmy boyfriend, who is a disfellowshipped jehova's witness, asks me to study the bible for 3 months or he won't marry me (i'm a muslim woman).
he loves me and really wants to marry me but he is doing a passive blackmailing: if i don't study for 3 months, 1 time per week, in my home country, and without him, there will be no marriage... as a muslim, i believe the bible is god's word so i look at the bible from time to time and would be happy to study with him.
but the fact that he is kind of saying "study the bible or bye bye no marriage" is really hurtful.
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dubstepped
Now you have some inkling of how we all feel when we are thrown away by our mothers and fathers and siblings and friends and sometimes spouses in the name of Jehovah. Thrown away like common trash as if nothing real was ever there.
Let's review.... it's a cult!!!
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Boyfriend force me to study the bible or no marriage
by MuslimWoman inmy boyfriend, who is a disfellowshipped jehova's witness, asks me to study the bible for 3 months or he won't marry me (i'm a muslim woman).
he loves me and really wants to marry me but he is doing a passive blackmailing: if i don't study for 3 months, 1 time per week, in my home country, and without him, there will be no marriage... as a muslim, i believe the bible is god's word so i look at the bible from time to time and would be happy to study with him.
but the fact that he is kind of saying "study the bible or bye bye no marriage" is really hurtful.
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He is just acting like a victim, that people in this forum are just haters that are not strong enough to be a jw help byb Jehovah.
He has been brainwashed to think that way. I once thought that way, we all probably did. The cult brainwashed us to see anyone that walked away from the cult as "mentally diseased apostates". Those were their actual words. By labeling us as such they preemptively discredit anything we say without having to think about anything or learn anything new. They can just sit in their comfortable brainwashing without ever making any changes.
By the way, if he wants to compare credentials within the cult that he was kicked out of by disfellowshipping I'll put mine up against his. Many here were elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, etc. And if Jehovah couldn't help us be faithful servants, then how weak must Jehovah be? His arguments are weak and his controlling nature is strong.
Jehovah's Witnesses shun people and then blame them for being shunned. JWs ALWAYS play the victim, they have been taught to. They are the victims of this evil world as they see it. Any questioning of them is seen as "persecution", yet they try to push people to question their beliefs so as to become JWs. Their organization is toxic and very sick and you should stay far away or they can make you toxic and sick too. You're seeing some of the symptoms in dealing with this man.
You are right, it is very sad. I'm truly sorry for your loss, and I know it hurts, but it is for the best. You are dodging a bullet here.
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Boyfriend force me to study the bible or no marriage
by MuslimWoman inmy boyfriend, who is a disfellowshipped jehova's witness, asks me to study the bible for 3 months or he won't marry me (i'm a muslim woman).
he loves me and really wants to marry me but he is doing a passive blackmailing: if i don't study for 3 months, 1 time per week, in my home country, and without him, there will be no marriage... as a muslim, i believe the bible is god's word so i look at the bible from time to time and would be happy to study with him.
but the fact that he is kind of saying "study the bible or bye bye no marriage" is really hurtful.
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dubstepped
Please stop. You are not loving him, you are in danger of being codependent with him. Go live your life and be happy. Find someone that loves and respects you for who you are, not for what they can convert you into. You cannot save him. You are on a forum full of people that have all lost their families due to shunning from that cult of Jehovah's Witnesses. All of us have tried at one time or another to save people and almost nobody is ever successful and we now far more about this than you could ever know. He didn't ask you for help, so you cannot help him. You have to let him go for your own mental and emotional well being. You are fighting a battle that you don't even understand like we do and that we cannot win with our loved ones, so you have little to no shot of winning here. The only way you win is to walk away and go be happy somewhere else. I'm not trying to be harsh, I care about you and I don't even know you. I care enough to want you to be yourself. That is love, not what he is doing. He is trying to control you, and control is not love.
The fact that he is disfellowshipped and STILL that hung up in the cult beliefs is terrifying. It shows that he is unlikely to get free. He is shunned, being treated like an un-person, and he still believes in them. Think about that. Not even shunning could save him from their grip. You won't stand a chance.
In fact, he will become even more intense as a JW if he marries you. I would bet that he probably got disfellowshipped because he wanted to have sex or something and he feels that by marrying someone he won't have that problem of sex outside of marriage anymore so he can officially go back and be accepted after a time. You might just be his ticket back to the cult and he might be your way to the United States. That's not healthy.
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Final Episode of David's Story regarding sexual abuse and Jehovah's Witnesses was released today....
by dubstepped ini've just released the final podcast from david's story which is a bonus episode formed from a discussion that we had in the pre-interview.
i think that it contained some valuable information and insights through our discussion of not just the response (or lack thereof) to sexual abuse within the cult of jehovah's witnesses, but also about other related matters.. i hope that david's openness about his life has made an impact on others, and invite any that listen to leave him a word of encouragement at http://shunnedpodcast.com/episodes/ under either episode 6, 7, or 8, all relating to his story.
i was fortunate enough to be able to take part in the telling of his story and it has impacted me for sure.. you can find the "shunned" podcast on itunes (apple podcasts), google play, wherever you choose to get podcasts, or streaming right from my site on the page linked above.
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I've just released the final podcast from David's story which is a bonus episode formed from a discussion that we had in the pre-interview. I think that it contained some valuable information and insights through our discussion of not just the response (or lack thereof) to sexual abuse within the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses, but also about other related matters.
I hope that David's openness about his life has made an impact on others, and invite any that listen to leave him a word of encouragement at http://shunnedpodcast.com/episodes/ under either episode 6, 7, or 8, all relating to his story. I was fortunate enough to be able to take part in the telling of his story and it has impacted me for sure.
You can find the "shunned" podcast on iTunes (Apple Podcasts), Google Play, wherever you choose to get podcasts, or streaming right from my site on the page linked above. Subscribe to get new episodes automatically when they are released.