who is hosting who here?.
https://jworg.zoom.us/.
our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.
It's just a vanity url, nothing special, readily available.
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/215062646-Guidelines-for-Vanity-URL-Requests?mobile_site=true
Jw.borg also has an official website that shows in search engine rankings first for the appropriate search terms. No, the cult doesn't own Google. These are basic marketing tools.
brothers and sisters associated with the watchtower society may 9, 2020. i have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.
but my efforts have remained fruitless.
you well know the biblical procedure.
I'm sad for him that he speaks as if he feels he's "god's mouthpiece" like Russell or something. He demands change as if anyone cares what he thinks, and essentially threatens retribution from jehovah if they don't listen to him. Please seek the help of a professional. You're not some prophet of god. The grandiosity on display is concerning.
today a dutch judge ruled that jw elders and the jw branch cannot invoke clergy-penitent privilege when it comes to information used in a judicial committee.. jw had filed a complaint with the courts because the branch office, two kingdom halls and a few elders' homes were raided by police almost 2 years ago in search of evidence related to child abuse issues.. jw argued that the information that was taken by police is protected by clergy-penitent privilege.
today the judge ruled that 1) an organization doesn't haven't such a privilege, 2) jw elders don't always act as spiritual counselors.
their actions as judges in judicial committees aren't protected by privilege, and 3) conversations jw have with their elders are often not confidential at all (as per jw policy) so jw elders can't rightfully invoke clergy-penitent privilege to maintain absolute confidentiality, because there isn't absolute confidentiality in the first place.. jw are thinking about appealing the verdict..
Go get 'em!
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Found these stats interesting from NY. Somehow most new cases are people that were actually sheltering at home. WTF?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Not sure if this has been talked about or not, but just saw this article indicating that the virus is mutating quickly and that could be an issue when looking to create a vaccine, not to mention that the new iteration is much more contagious.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mutant-coronavirus-emerged-even-more-110046843.html
its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.
they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.
this was never done that i can remember before.
Hotpepper: The WTS went against U.S. govt the Mexican gov't Russian government. Romanian Gov't. German government, . You pick the country and the WTS Has taken them to court. NO COPYRIGHT. Involved. You cry babies like Dubstepped. And minimus. Crying for proof. Big time Apostates always waving their flag. But don't know their WT her history. I'll make it easy. Who and how many persons, groups did Charles taze Russell try to SUE.
They are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult. This was never done that I can remember before.
its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.
they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.
this was never done that i can remember before.
Clearly they'd like to shut people down and of course copyright would be one way to try. But again, do you have evidence of them going after people that are merely critical without using their copyrighted materials? Books where people simply tell their stories? Other such activism without using their copyrighted materials?
its amazing how the cult has changed over the years.
they are now suing everyone who has books or internet presences critical of the cult.
this was never done that i can remember before.
I may be wrong, but I believe they're only suing people that are using their copyrighted materials, not just anyone critical of the cult. There is the concept of "fair use" but there are things that have to be met to meet that threshold and let's face it, Watchtower has free lawyers working in house so they can sue now and worry about what meets the qualifications later.
If you know of people sued simply for being critical I'd be interested to know. Many people use their materials without care and feel justified but that could prove an issue later. I don't know of anyone that hasn't done something potentially copyright infringing that has been gone after yet for just being critical.
the reason that i ask is, in the two years on this forum and you tube, i've seen ex-jw's either drop off entirely or make fewer and fewer videos.
i know the emotional toll can be high.
is that the sole reason, or is it cost (video) or do you think it's external pressure (legal or family)?
I've been producing content since mid-2017 through my podcasts and YouTube channel. It's a ton of work and like the OP said it takes an emotional toll. Some create content because it is part of their own healing process and at a point they're finished because they just don't have anything left to offer. Others create content and see how much work it takes and decide they'd rather put that time and effort into other things that move them forward in life. There's a lot of drama in the ex-JW community and that can take a toll on people and become exhausting. Let's face it, leaving a cult doesn't mean you're healthy, it just means you left an unhealthy environment, not that you left the residue of that environment behind.
I've had my moments when I was tired too or got exhausted by dealing with toxic people that have come my way. I've always wanted to do it to help other people though and someone letting me know how what I did helped them or maybe Watchtower doing something awful might light my fire again. I've been very consistent, and I've been able to do more and more. Last year I got to speak at a conference and did some work with ICSA. Now I work one on one with people professionally to help them heal and that really gets to the heart of things and keeps me going. I also run group meetups every week. I'm trying to create new ideas for content too as keeping it fresh is a goal. But it's definitely a slog if you want to keep going. I try to stay out of the ex-JW activist drama too and kind of keep to myself as much as possible. But it isn't easy to do something like this long term.
what a crazy dream, it was so cool....she came to me and told me she da'd from the cult.
i was so happy in my dream.
when i woke, it took me a few seconds to realize it was only a dream and that she is still brainwashed.
I think that seeing more people we care about leave the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses is a dream that we all have. Just today I had two people reach out that were thinking of going back reach out to me. Thankfully I was able to talk with them and to help them see the realities of the cult so that the fear they were brainwashed with didn't lead them back. Talk about "dogs returning to their vomit".
I hate to hold out false hope but you never know who might wake up someday. I'm sure my brother was excited when I woke up. I don't know if more people are leaving, but more people are being vocal about it, and that means that more opportunities exist to wake up and find their way out of the cult. Talk about a resurrection, seeing someone you care about rise from the dead so to speak and find their real life is exciting.
