Amanda & Joelbear, if you turn on CNN you will see news events running across the bottom of the screen during th Breaking News being discussed now. You might have to wait a few minutes because they keep playing the same news topics over again.
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CNN mentions Jehovah's Witnesses Today
by ARoarer ini have been watching the news on cnn and happened to notice the news flashing across the bottom mentioning the state of ohio banning door to door work and jehovah's witnesses!
has anyone seen this?
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CNN mentions Jehovah's Witnesses Today
by ARoarer ini have been watching the news on cnn and happened to notice the news flashing across the bottom mentioning the state of ohio banning door to door work and jehovah's witnesses!
has anyone seen this?
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I have been watching the News on CNN and happened to notice the news flashing across the bottom mentioning the state of Ohio banning door to door work and Jehovah's Witnesses! Has anyone seen this?
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What is significant about 9/11?
by Seeker inmany jws have become excited by the events of 9/11 in the u.s., thinking that this is a definite sign of the imminent end of the system.
we have seen online jws talking about how these awful events were "prophecied in the bible" and how this is proof that armageddon is near.
we have heard reports of local jws saying the same things, including many of our family members.
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Hello Seeker, I have also been questioning the JW response to the significance to 9/11. Some of the answers that come to my mind are the words and pictures that were drilled into our minds at the Bookstudy when we were studying the Revelation Book some years ago. In fact we studied it twice within a few years. The Bookstudy had been in our house for many years and we happened to have the DEAF Bookstudy. I remember the pictures were lavishly translated and described in ways that maybe regular bookstudies did not expound on. But what sticks out in my mind the most is that of the United Nations, and the Anglo-American world powers that were descibed. It is easy for American JW's who have been in for many years to recall that part of the Revelation Book and it's depiction of the Anglo-American speaking like a lamb etc etc. I have been really working at undoing a lot of the messages and programming that came from that book. Logically I can see how the WTBTS could say anything it wants to regarding the Anglo-American alliance because it has had access to the political arena for many years via the UN and also Joint Conferances in countries such as Australia, regarding the political discussions on religious envents and persecution. I think, as I have said before, the Watchtower likes to self fulfill thier own prophecies. So the R/F JW's can see these statements and think oh wow, the Society is really a prophet from Jehovah. That is why I think the reaction I have gotten from former JW friends is that I and my family are worthy of death like Korah because we have rejected God's "channel" or visible representative on earth today. JW's who keep their head in the sand are easily kept in line when they don't use thier critical thinking and reasoning powers. For myself, it was easy to begin to do that, as devout as I was, I experienced first hand the corruption of this "channel" over the policies regarding lies and coverups of pedophiles within the congregation. I began "seeing" with my own eyes what they were doing, and slowly the layers of the JW personality peeled away. Thankfully I and my family have escaped, and the events of 9/11 are really telling as far as the impact that these events DID NOT have on us to scare us into going back. But those old scare messages are always there and I continually must work to logically get rid of them . Just my thoughts
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The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
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I agree, pettygrudger, they will have to curb the graphic pictures of death and destruction to non witnesses. I started a thread regarding the WT fulfilling thier own prophecies. I was hoping to get more of a response because this question has been on my mind but I don't feel like going into it all again on this thread. But I would really like some input. Sometimes the WT programming all comes back to me when I least expect it and the questions come. I would help if I got some answers to some of the questions I have been mulling around in my head.
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The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
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I bet when they go in there they don't carry pictures of thier literature depicting burning buildings, people laying on the ground dying and JW's smiling with the devastation in the background. They are just taking advangtage of the vernerability of these tired weary men who are literally crushed in spirit. That is when JW's strike, when someone is at their lowest, most vulnerable state. Then the zero in with their cult propaganda not mentioning the dark side of the Watchtower message of Taliban-like thinking.
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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This thought just came to my mind. What if we notified local news papers about the WT suddenly withdrawing thier 10 year membership with the United Nations?
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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Yes, wannahelp, it is sick and disgusting, and again, I re-iterate that they have all the same trappings that the Taliban have when it comes to imposing fear, guilt, shame, and punishment. Seeing first hand how this is carried out through the ones they designate as taking the lead, and how they abuse thier leadership roll by threatening death to those who are not obedient or percieved as loyal.I do hope that the media somehow picks up on WT publications graphic depictions of the UN, beasts, destruction of cities on fire etc. Yes it is truly sickening.
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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Wannahelp, I agree with you about getting hard evidence that the WTBTS and it's 10 year involvement with the United Nations. They are already denying it and blaming it on "apostates". This is really proof that the WT leaders must not believe in thier hearts that they are really God's channel, for if they did, they would fear that they are going to answer to him in the same way they teach that all those unrepentant lyers will answer to him.
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WT/UN/Self-fulfilled Prophecy?
by ARoarer ini was wondering if anyone has been wondering what i have been wondering.
it seems to me the wt likes to read the bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill.
if they for the last 10 years have been a member of the un as an ngo to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion.
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I was wondering if anyone has been wondering what I have been wondering. It seems to me the WT likes to read the Bible and then pick out scriptures to make self-fulfill. If they for the last 10 years have been a member of the UN as an NGO to secretly recieve the benefits of that position, they are also using the current events to further their image as the "true" religion. Now after riding on the back of the scarlet colored beast for 10 years, as the rest of "Babylon" they have to suddenly "jump of" so that they can go back to being persecuted by the "Beast". Watchtower would love for the UN to "turn on them" so they could continue to mislead the members. What is the point in insighting the UN into turning it's attention on the WT. Right now the UN views it as just another organization with wierd ideas. Watchtower would love for "apostates" to side with the UN in investigating and persecuting them. They thrive on this and use it to recruit. If the UN investigates them and turns on them viewing them as a destructive religion preaching death to the rest of mankind the way the Taliban preaches, then the Watchtower gets to fulfill their own Biblical false predictions. They are using the times today to their advantage. Otherwise they never would have become a member of the United Nations NGO. What really impresses me is that they give the R&F more reason to wish "apostates" dead. I have already, myself, received 2 letters of such from people who had been my closest friends. I was told that my leaving would prove "dangerous" to me and my family. And that "unfortunately we are not living back in Moses day when we would have been put to death'.... Basically the WT has the same thinking of the Taliban, but who knows how many deranged JW's there are that would think they were pleasing the WT gods in Brooklyn by harming those who they percieve to be "apostates". The WTS like the Taliban uses religion to pervert and fulfill thier own twisted beliefs. Does anyone else feel this way
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Family About to Disown Me
by Moridin inwell i finally got the guts to tell my mother that i had enlisted in the army.
she didn't say a whole lot to me, but she did tell my sister she was calling the elders and that when i was df'd she would have nothing to do with me.
i can't say that it suprises me too much, but i was hoping for more of an adult reaction.
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Moridin, your mother must realize that your joining the military is an act of love for humanity. In this situation with the US at war, you are joining the governmental authority spoken about in Romans. It is God's minister of vengeance against those committing wrong, criminal acts. To see the way the people over there ruled by the Teleban are harming thier own people because of their evil treatment and low regard for human life, they will receive justice from the superior authorities that God has in thier relative positions for the good. This is in the book of Romans I forget the exact scripture, and can't look it up right now. The Bible also says greater love than this hath no man than to give his life in behalf of his friends. These former "friends" enjoy protection, and their children enjoy protection because of men like you. This is the homeland, just like your house is your home and an evil murderer trying to come in and murder your family, would have to be stopped. God bless you and keep you safe and strong.