By the way Gumby...HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! I don't know how I missed that thread.
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If The Bible Is Truly The Word Of God...
by exjdub inwhy would he leave so many loose ends?
believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the bible, i do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time.
i really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and i really try to examine how i feel.
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If The Bible Is Truly The Word Of God...
by exjdub inwhy would he leave so many loose ends?
believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the bible, i do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time.
i really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and i really try to examine how i feel.
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why can't a "God" who is SOOOO perfect and powerful provide clear and understandable documentation for us?
I guess that's what I was trying to say Itz. Thanks for your thoughts.
You have asked the exact same questions I did not too long ago. It was THESE questions you have just presented .....and finding the answers to them, that opened my eyes up to a whole new world.
That's a relief to hear that someone else had the same questions Gumby. It was scary at first, well...terrifying if the truth be told, when we first left the Org., and you hit the nail right on the head: First went the religion, then went the hope.
I have been out for some time now (7+ years) so I am not afraid about losing the hope anymore, because I don't believe in it, least ways not the way the WTS presents it, but I am very curious and think deeply on matters. I have PM'd a few people that have tried Buddhism and Taoism and have been interested in their experiences. I don't ask to pry, or to be obnoxious, I am just wide open right now and I guess I am looking to start a new journey, but have to break through some of the barriers of the fear of exploration that the WTS placed so deeply for 30+ years. I guess like any new adventure I feel mixed emotions of excitement, curiosity, and fear of the unknown. I think I might be ready though.
BTW....you did a nice job at presenting your thoughts on this.
Thank you VERY much for that comment. I took a deep breath before I pressed the post button. Sometimes my thoughts consume me and I wonder if I am crazy. I sure don't want anybody else thinking it. Or if they think it already, I don't need to remove any doubt!
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July 1st Watchtower - The brothers are slowing down in their ministry
by truthseeker inthe last watchtower i commented on, was about the friends tiring out and slacking off meeting attendance.
each publisher did: 9.2 hours.
ok, so the above is for one publisher.
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In particular, they don't know what to do anymore - or how to 'guilt' or punish
people who refuse to be 'guilted' or motivated into more useless meeting attendance or a sterile, phoney 'ministry'.
What's the next step in this decline? Hysterical threats? More feeble attempts to motivate the inactive?
Well said metatron. I think what amazes me is that the tactics never change. If they were smart they would downplay the guilt and punishment and focus on showing true love and concern. They certainly would not be seeing the mass exodus that is occuring. But as we know, their motive is money and power and they have no interest in helping people whatsoever. Good trees don't produce bad fruit and vice versa. Thanks for the information truthseeker...good stuff!
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Whats up?
by Stefanie in.
i have been away some for that last couple of days being real busy.
so whats up everybody?
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The place wasn't the same without out you Stefanie.
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If The Bible Is Truly The Word Of God...
by exjdub inwhy would he leave so many loose ends?
believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the bible, i do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time.
i really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and i really try to examine how i feel.
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Why would he leave so many loose ends?
Believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the Bible, I do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time. I really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and I really try to examine how I feel. The problem is, my trust was violated..many times. I feel, like most of you, that I have been spiritually raped. That has cause me to realize and conclude that the WTS does not have the Truth.
Because of the violation, I examine everything now to see if it holds water and I have a real hard time now accepting the Bible as the Word of God. I have a hard time accepting Christianity (or any religion)as anything other than a way to control people. Now I know some of you who still believe in Christianity would say that it is a matter of faith. I could accept that if there weren't so many holes that I see.
- If the Bible is really the word of God, why would he allow manuscripts etc. to be destroyed or lost? when you have so many translations of the same book, many which contradict each other, wouldn't it be critical to have those preserved by the Almighty?
- If God's name is so important, why would he allow the pronunciation to be lost?
- How can a book be inspired by God, and yet, be so vague in so many areas...especially in connection with the afterlife, or hope for the dead? When I read of those things, I see the views of the men who wrote. God didn't inspire them to see what the afterlife would REALLY be like.
- If prophecy is there to help people see the "sign" of the time of the end, why is it so confusing and there is no clear interpretation? And how would you ever be able to verify a true prophet?
To have faith you have to have a solid foundation. I just don't see it. I think that some of the problem is that I am truly happy now, but I am trying not to close my mind to personal growth.
Well, those are just a few questions that roll around in my head and that keep the loose screws company. Sometimes when I think too much about it my head feels like a big melon and I just shut down. Too much processing. Am I crazy? I think what got me thinking is that I listened to Little Toe's DA talk yesterday. He spoke of having a profound epiphany about Jesus 6 months prior to his leaving the WTS. He described it as a very deep feeling about his relationship with Jesus. Anyway...Your thoughts (if you don't think I am a nut...well even if you do think I am a nut)?
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I am finally ready to deal with my father...
by Aztec inhe's pushed me to my last nerve!.
i need any proof that i can verify that 1) the last days are not here!
4) cult info.
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However, your parents have bailed you out over this past year and assumed many of your responsibilities.
I would almost think that an occasional preaching session has been earned by them for what they have done for you and your son.
Thank you Uzzah...That's what I get for commenting without all of the facts. That would certainly alter what I said some, and I agree with you...an occasional preaching session would be a fair trade off perhaps. Thank you for the clarification. Now if you will excuse me, I am going to try and remove my foot from my mouth
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Eric Idle's FCC Song
by PopeOfEruke inhas anybody downloaded this great song?
its available for free from the monty python website: www.pythonline.com.
the pope .
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Now THAT was a classic. Thanks for the link Pope, I appreciate it.
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I'm so glad!!!!
by Ciara ina week ago my father-in-law had a serious heart attack.
he's been wonderful to me since my jw parents disowned me.
he went into the hospital and had triple bypass surgery to correct the blockages, but first they had to cauterize a bleeding ulcer in his stomach.
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That's great news Ciara! Please give our regards and best get well wishes to your Father-In-Law.
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This Is How They Do it . . .
by Corvin in*** w86 3/15 pp.
19-20 allow no place for the devil!
14 finally, we might consider what the society has published in the past on chronology.
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Therefore, resolve in your heart that you will never even touch the poison that apostates want you to sip.
Ohhh! Please don't make me sip, glugglugglugglugglugglugglugglug...please stop...glugglugglugglugglugglugglugglug...hey wait a minute, this tastes good, and it is the truth about the Troof! Give me more (repeatedly pounding mug on the table).
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The Joy Of Sex..
by Englishman in..is notably absent amongst middle-aged dubs.. maybe the joy of sex was forbidden to them?.
take a peek at the nov 1964 wt study: >>the male sex organs and the female sex organs were to cooperate in fulfilling this god-given command.
thus the sex organs are not playthings to have a lot of fun with, for such fun does not serve the divine purpose.
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Hence no Christian girl should make herself like a public towel on which any man can wipe his hands by means of immorality. What self-respecting man who believes in health and hygiene would want to wipe his hand on a dirty public towel by marrying a girl who makes a harlot of herself, a prostitute? Girls, do not make yourselves a dirty towel for public use, available to the dirty hands of any whoremonger, any symbolic "dog."<<
Hmmmmmmmm...Nothing in here about a self-respecting woman not wanting to wipe her hands on a dirty public towel by marrying a man who makes use of himself like a pimp and a whoremonger. I guess it's OK! Ya gotta love the Watchtower!
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