welcome littletree!
may you learn and grow to be a 'bigtree' here among friends :)
hugs,
fleur
this is my first post, and i'm so excited (i've been reading posts on this site for over a year now; i tried to register back in october 2003, but had some problems.
i decided to just go ahead and use my "real" work e-mail address, which seemed to have worked.
just for a short introduction- i got baptized at 14, on september 1, 2001. and on september 1, 2003, the last day of our district convention, i decided i was never going back.
welcome littletree!
may you learn and grow to be a 'bigtree' here among friends :)
hugs,
fleur
its me sienna....now not only did i post but i have my own name as well...yaaay!!!.
arent you proud sassy.
well for all of you who don't know me..im a 23 year old ex-jw from cali....disfellowshiped three years ago for being pregnant...well....actually for how i got pregnant...but you know what i mean.
welcome, AOE! looks like a really fun bunch of ladies you hang out with from that picture!
what the elders wouldn't buy the 'vergence in the Force' explanation, our young apprentice? LOL kidding!!! hope you find friends and comfort and freedom to be yourself here. so glad to have you with us.
hugs,
fleur
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now that i am no longer a jw, i can associate, and celebrate holidays and other family traditions with my non-jw relatives.
however i am sometimes bitter because i missed so many experiences as a child with my relatives that they seem almost like strangers rather than relatives.. does anyone else feel this way, and how have you bridged the gap?
awww, man, new light ((((((((((((((((((((new light)))))))))))))))))))) i know how you feel sweetie. i'm a fourth generation-er myself, my family is now working on the fifth generation of dubbies with no end in sight. so sad.
i have inherited beautiful family through my husband. his family is small, but close and they have welcomed me and my child with open arms. the first year we celebrated christmas (2000) my MIL came on a cramped plane with boxes of family ornaments (she left out anything overtly religious, she's very sensitive to my feelings on that) and she explained to me and my daughter what each one meant, who had made it, many were from relatives who have passed on. we decorated our tree at thanksgiving cause that was when they were here, and i can't tell you how we bonded.
every year now we decorate the tree together if they can come for thanksgiving (too hard for them to travel at x-mas). we share b-day gifts and cards and the like. it's a joy, and i know i am lucky to have family that can celebrate with me.
i can only hope that family of your choosing, through marriage or otherwise will come into your life newlight, to help fill some of that void. i know it won't go away completely, but i hope it gets better for you.
hugs,
fleur
i'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts on this are.
do you feel that it is possible to obsess about the past (in particular about history as a jw) to the point that it hinders you from living a full life?
if you think this is possible, how do you know when the past is taking over?
yes, i think it happens to people...it's a fine line between mourning the past and getting through the grief to go on to better lives (many have come here, gotten their closure and left). I left here for a long time, was out living to the full and doing things i love. then something happened that brought it all crashing down on me again when i didn't think it could, and so i'm back here.
do i hope that someday i'll be past all of this entirely? hell yes. do i think it'll happen, since all of my family are jw's? not likely. its like any other kind of recovery, i will be a recovering jw for the rest of my life. but that doesn't mean that i want it to become my life. so i do try to dwell on what i have now; i'm a damn lucky woman and i don't want to forget that, ever.
hugs for you, and some extra hugs for danny (((((((((((((Danny)))))))))))))))) and (((((((((((stefanie)))))) too
fleur
neil and i are enjoying our typical sunday afternoon snuggle on the sofa.
we're watching some really boring tv and flipping through the channels.
then somebody knocks at the door, sending my two little dogs into a barking frenzy.
aww, don't worry andi, you'll have another chance. You took magazines, they'll be back, you're a RETURN VISIT now!! :D
love ya!
fleur
randy was kind enough to recently post my story on his website (www.exjws.net/pioneers/rjjw.htm) the response i received was overwhelming, with many invitations to join this discussion forum.
i won't go into my story, as it is posted and, as long as it is, is really only the tip of the iceberg.
the more i read and the more i talk to former jw's, the more i'm convinced that i have been duped..something i never thought would happen to me, as cynical as i am.
welcome! i read your story the other day when our dear Randy posted about it here. (I love that man, btw! :) he's an angel if such things exist :)
you're already a member without knowing it of a growing 'club'...the "they got me as a zygote" club. if i hadn't had the misfortune of being exposed to the borg from conception, they would not likely have gotten me as an adult. i believed it because i was raised to know nothing else. fortunately, my child has it better.
hugs to you and welcome, hope you find strength in numbers here. i have had more genuine kindness and concern come into my life through exjw's (so called low apostates) than i ever did from the 'loving brothers'.
your dear mother..poor thing. what happened to her is wrong on so many levels i can't even begin to say.
hugs,
fleur
i posted this in a thread but perhaps it needs to be on its own so that it doesn't take over the other thread.
most people who have lived in a cult or high control group such as the jws will experience many of the symptoms of complex post-traumatic stress disorder (c-ptsd).. complex post-traumatic stress disorder.
trauma and recovery .
thanks lee, this is a keeper that i didn't see in the other thread, thank you for posting it.
love
fleur
hello,forum.my name is dallas and i live in oklahoma.i left the jehovahs witnesses in 1998 after a former member showed me the 1925 false prophecy.i knew circuit overseer william osbeck very well,he left my circuit only to be replaced with brother"if you knock the society i will scream"boatz.he was nothing but a first class coward.he wouldnt even meet with me after i had disassociated myself.i have no regrets about leaving,why didnt my conducters bring up the 1925 failure while i was studying?they failed to mention it.anyway i am glad to be free.god bless you all.-dallas
welcome, Dallas! i hope that you will be able to find what you need here, whatever brought you to us!
hugs,
fleur
this very old thread of mine was resurrected for my friend onacruse.
it is being brought up to show him (he's a relatively newbie ex-dub) that some things just don't change.. some of the people in this thread have moved on, but the social dynamics are still the same.
people will always be people, good bad, or indifferent.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/16637/1.ashx.
excellent, master farkel, only you forgot another classic...
Esmeralda: I'm leaving!
Englishman: don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!
All: we'll see you in a week, essie.
six months later:
Esmeralda: I'm back!
oh, and i had the (((((((((hugging))))))))))) thing going even before dear tina did!
LOL
i can laugh at myself, isn't that a sign of growth? :D cause i'm not the girl i used to be. i'm not nearly as screwed up as i used to be, hence why the name, and the woman, have retired. but i'm still here :)
btw, reason i came and went so much was at panic points when something would trigger me, i realize that now. now that i recognize it, and know what it is, i'm a lot less flighty. but hell, at least i was always sincere, whether i was coming or going lol
love ya fark.
fleur
(of the en ex-jdub by any user name still has the same baggage, class)
you think dubs are wacky?
you think islam is a "peaceful" religion?
the crap below which is straight from the hadith makes fred franz look like mother teresa, einstein and aristotle combined.
Even psychos like him get something right now and then.
well you know what they say, fark...no one can be wrong 100% of the time...this was JFR's one percent LOL.
hugs,
fleur
(though if you remember me it would be as 'essie')