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did anyone see the city confidential episode where a dub woman from (i think) boise, idaho was killed by her russian born ballet star husband?.
i seems pretty clear the he killed her, but he is now saying that she was killed by the watchtower, bible and tract society, because she married him - an unbeliever.. does any one have any personal knowledge about this case?
Did anyone see the City Confidential episode where a Dub woman from (I think) Boise, Idaho was killed by her Russian born Ballet star husband?
I seems pretty clear the he killed her, but he is now saying that she was killed by the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society, because she married him - an unbeliever.
Does any one have any personal knowledge about this case?
i am a bit too young to remember this but, was disco really banned by the jw's??
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You bring up an interesting subject.
When disco music first came out, the dubs in the NYC area not only listened to disco music but many of us frequently attended discos.
Sometime in the early 80's the brothers got real strict on our entertainment and the going to discos was the first to go. Soom after disco music was also banned.
I remember me and some friends had a gathering and 2 days before, 2 elders came to my house and lectured me on what records were acceptable to play and what records I could not play.
This really sucked because I used to DJ at many gatherings, so my selection of music went from almost everthing to next to nothing.
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i don't know if any of you knew brother littlejohn of nyc, but i just heard that he just died.. if the name sounds familiar it may be because he had many parts on the assembly programs, usually the dramas.. he was a overall nice guy, but i am sure neither he nor his family expected him to die in this"system of things".
I don't know if any of you knew Brother Littlejohn of NYC, but I just heard that he just died.
If the name sounds familiar it may be because he had many parts on the assembly programs, usually the dramas.
He was a overall nice guy, but I am sure neither he nor his family expected him to die in this"system of things".
first, i hope all of you fathers out there had a great day yesterday with your families.. i had a great day with my wife and daughter, but i would like to share my experience with my dub mother and unbelieving dad yesterday.. i met my mom and dad at my cousin's home whose wife recently had surgery.
my mom and dad spent the day with them preparing sunday's meal and meals for the next few days.
as a side note my cousin was a dub in his teens but he left the borg at 16, because he wanted a normal life.. .
First, I hope all of you Fathers out there had a great day yesterday with your families.
I had a great day with my wife and daughter, but I would like to share my experience with my dub mother and unbelieving dad yesterday.
I met my mom and dad at my cousin's home whose wife recently had surgery. My mom and dad spent the day with them preparing sunday's meal and meals for the next few days. As a side note my cousin was a dub in his teens but he left the Borg at 16, because he wanted a normal life.
Anyway, I gave my dad his father's day gift, the first time I had ever given him a fathers day gift on Father's day. He was deeply moved. Since I was raised a dub, we never celebrated holidays, even though I have given him gifts over the years for holidays, I never specified that they were for a holiday.
He had tears in his eyes as he accepted the gift.
This got me thinking how unfair it is to the unbelieving partner when the children are raised as dubs. I noticed my mom didn't show any response to the gift and I think she was secretly envious of the gesture.
How many of you never celebrated holidays with your unbelieving parent or relative?
Since leaving the borg, have you begun to engage in giftgiving / celebrating holidays with your relatives?
Now this is really sad, I don't know my dad's exact birthday - it seems like it was never mentioned in my home, are there any of you out there who do not know the exact birthday of a close relative?
a few weeks ago i posted that a very good friend of mine from childhood was diagnoised with terminal colon cancer.. we were very close growing up in the dubdum, and we were in each others wedding party.
our kids reffered to each of us as uncle and his kids look towards my parents as their grandparents.. we drifted apart after i left the lie, but we managed to stay in touch infrequently even if only to keep updated on the kids or other family members.. fortunately for me, i was able to spent a lot of time with him while he was in the hospital and hospice, and we reconnected as friends almost like the old days.
on may 19th, although it was the day before my family vacation and i had a lot of running around to do, me and my wife went to see him.
Thanks to everyone for your supportive posts.
I just hope I can get through his funeral tomorrow with out telling anyone off.
However my mom is going to get an earful from me me after the funeral. I actually over heard her tell one of my friends relative's that her son and a few of his his friends are helping with the funeral costs.
Meanwhile she ignores one of my closest friends because he is DFed, who is also helping financially.
What happens to commons sense and decency when these people become Dubs?
I don't think I will ever understand.
a few weeks ago i posted that a very good friend of mine from childhood was diagnoised with terminal colon cancer.. we were very close growing up in the dubdum, and we were in each others wedding party.
our kids reffered to each of us as uncle and his kids look towards my parents as their grandparents.. we drifted apart after i left the lie, but we managed to stay in touch infrequently even if only to keep updated on the kids or other family members.. fortunately for me, i was able to spent a lot of time with him while he was in the hospital and hospice, and we reconnected as friends almost like the old days.
on may 19th, although it was the day before my family vacation and i had a lot of running around to do, me and my wife went to see him.
A few weeks ago I posted that a very good friend of mine from childhood was diagnoised with terminal colon cancer.
We were very close growing up in the dubdum, and we were in each others wedding party. Our kids reffered to each of us as uncle and his kids look towards my parents as their grandparents.
We drifted apart after I left the lie, but we managed to stay in touch infrequently even if only to keep updated on the kids or other family members.
Fortunately for me, I was able to spent a lot of time with him while he was in the hospital and hospice, and we reconnected as friends almost like the old days. On May 19th, although it was the day before my family vacation and I had a lot of running around to do, Me and my wife went to see him. We only stayed a short time, but I knew it wass the last time I would see him alive.
He died the next day at 6:00 AM. He was only 47.
What troubles me almost as much as his life being cut short, is that here was a guy who was very smart, as is his wife, has smart and beautiful children, but he never reach his potential academically or in his career. It is also obvious that his family is not prepared financialyl to deal with his death.
Today I am meeting with his son to help him get prepared for his dad's funeral, but I know that his friends (and I mean his friends who are ex dubs) need to help his family financially, at least for a while.
This is just another tragic story from dubland.
Thanks for listening, I just needed to vent.
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just wanted opinions regarding having arguments.
my usual take on someone i love wronging me is to be forgiving and not argue about it.
i wondering if thats not the most healthy way of dealing with matters.
I think arguing especially between people who love each other, can help in the long run as long as its not malicious or spite ful.
I argue sometimes with my wife or 20 year daughter and I find that they will express their true feeeling about a matter in the argument, therefore it gives me insight as to what bothers them of makes that unhappy.
I may not appreciate the actual argument in the moment of the argument, but once the tempers have cooled down, it helps me understand them better
Blowing off steam in a constructive way, can sometimes be a good thing even if it is an argument.
mindless fun part (ii) .
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mine is - west side story followed in second place by the very first star wars.
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Jerry McGuire
What dreams may come
Imitation of LIfe - 2nd version Lana Turner and Juanita Moore
Rudy
many jws were trained to have "sensitive" consciences.
very little ever bothered my conscience.
Where do I begin....
Heavy drinking
Foul Languge
Missing meetings because you needed to work
Not commenting at the meetings
Trendy clothing
Unsubmissive wives
Movies with questionable scenes - R rated or not
Low field service hours
Hiding a secret sin
Yeah I admit it, I was immature, arrogant and knew nothing about life. I was a piece of work!
did you expect, that one day, you would be persecuted for being a jw?.
how bad did you expect it to get?
do jw's today still expect some kind of persecution to come because of their beliefs and actions?
I always thought that I would be tortured and probably die.
It's one of the reasons I started going to the gym at an early age.
I wanted to be physically strong enough to withstand the torture and "take a firm stand for Jehovah."
