sorry, for those about to read.
i don't post often here.
to be honest, i relate to almost everything i read here.
One day, and I know it may be hard to believe now, you may be grateful for the distance between your JW sister and yourself. You will be spared the details of all the degrading, disenchanting experiences that she and her family will go through as they try to bring up that child "in the discipline and mental regulating of Jehovah".
Sometimes it's better not to know.
Sometimes it's the only way to survive.
Nina
god says: ?blessed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in jehovah, and whose confidence jehovah has become.?
a governing body that made decisions based on the scriptures and blessed by jehovah!
now, he is once again serving as a christian elder.
Theo,
If the point you are trying to make is that people don't have the capacity to govern their own lives, just say it. Just that.
When you start spouting scriptures and/or examples you lose ground; there will be an exception to every statement that you make.
Just state your thesis and let the discussion begin. Post your scriptures and examples as appropriate to the developing thread.
...unless you just want a fight...
Nina
do you have a favorite scripture?
mine is ecc 7:3 "better is vexation than laughter, for by the crossness of the face the heart becomes better.
ever realize you are a certain way and it just makes your face cringe?
Mtth. 6: 33, 34
Nina
does anyone know if it's at all possible to see what the wt has on you if you're not longer associated with them?
is it possible to request, maybe legally, that they expunge any information about you?
does it stay there forever?
Does "theocratic warfare strategy" mean anything to you? Even if you get them to officially destroy your records you can bet your last Watchtower that there is a backup copy somewhere. WT does not take orders from Satan's System.
I don't know what, precisely, is bothering you about that particular organization having information about you. Maybe it's just the idea that they have it at all and you are not even a member? If that's the case, really, why worry about it? Have you any idea how much information (and I mean very personal information) has been collected about you by other organizations during your lifetime? And how that collected information is bought and sold, even by entities that say they will never do such things?
The only thing that matters is how you live your life today. Let them have their "records". It's all dryness and dust. You are the real living person. Nothing they can collect and store has any power or influence over the life you lead...unless you let it. You will not lose any real love or respect nor can you gain any real "standing" based on such stored information. It's dead. It's over, whether the information collected is true or false. Let it go.
"Let the dead bury their dead." Soon all WT will have left is memories.
Nina
ok... as the title states... i usually see these threads as the author being really up themselves, but something just occured to me, and i would like an opinion.. those who have seen me in chat / pm'ed me / read enough of my posts have seen me joke around.
i flirt (with members of the opposite sex, and the same sex), play around, mock people, once in a while get depressed... etc etc.... but... in real life i am so different than all this.
i am a loving husband (very straight) and step father at 21 years of age.
You know what I think?
I think you are just trying out your mind...
as am I.
Nina
with the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil.
i am the first president in u.s. history to have the united nations.
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public.
I'd like to see a "resume" on Bill Gates.
Nina
does anyone know if it's at all possible to see what the wt has on you if you're not longer associated with them?
is it possible to request, maybe legally, that they expunge any information about you?
does it stay there forever?
Then there's the copy that gets sent to Brooklyn when you are DF'd.
does anyone know if it's at all possible to see what the wt has on you if you're not longer associated with them?
is it possible to request, maybe legally, that they expunge any information about you?
does it stay there forever?
ok... as the title states... i usually see these threads as the author being really up themselves, but something just occured to me, and i would like an opinion.. those who have seen me in chat / pm'ed me / read enough of my posts have seen me joke around.
i flirt (with members of the opposite sex, and the same sex), play around, mock people, once in a while get depressed... etc etc.... but... in real life i am so different than all this.
i am a loving husband (very straight) and step father at 21 years of age.
It's all one and the same guy.
The part you repress in "real life" is the part that shows up on this board...on steroids!
As I see it, one of the critical functions of this board is to allow a place for all of us to integrate the various facets of our personalities.
Nina
okay... this is _sorta_ a 'reunion' - so i posted it here.. i will be flying out to san jose tomorrow (april 27th), and then driving back to texas via ih-10.
(i think we are going to start off by coming through part of los angeles.).
this will take me through all sorts of interesting places that i have never been... (i've been to san jose, ca - but not out ih-10).. anyway... i think that it would be really really really cool if i could meet (even if just over the phone) some of you folks - who might be in this 'path'.. so... if you feel 'brave' enuf to want to meet up with a nerd - and trust that i am not psychotic... neurotic, or any of those other 'otics', then perhaps... if you could pm me... i can give you my e-mail addy, and we could then exchange a phone number or something.. i leave tomorrow... i know this is pretty sudden-like... so... you will need to make a 'coin-toss' decision - and pm me tonight... or no later than tomorrow am.. i hope that i can at least talk to... or meet... one person from this forum in the next few days.
So how was lunch?
