Posts by Nina

each day as i was passing by the kh this week i was noticing that there was an ever larger group for service - first on saturday, then on sunday a huge number of cars [for this hall], then today a sizable group too.. then it hit me - time to get the field service time pad out and get set to report.. by tomorrow the zeal should be back to normal again.

gezz -was i like this?.

Nina

Prolly the week of the Circuit Overseer's visit. Starts on Tuesday, ends on Sunday, includes inviting all and sundry to the Special Talk he'll be giving Sunday at the Hall.

It's also a short month for those who are auxilliary pioneering.

Nina

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basic questions

by BYR in

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friends

i am new to your board.

i am not a member of your church nor am i seeking to become one.

i do have questions from time to time as to your basic beliefs and practices.

Nina

The official Watchtower/Jehovah's Witness website: www. watchtower.org

The Contact Us form on that site: https://watch002.securesites.net/contact/submit.htm Caveat Emptor.

Nina

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VHS of Elder lying in court...need help getting on net

by alamb in

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i have the video, finally, of the city overseer perjuring himself.

in it, he denies wt publications, refuses to read wt articles and quotes claiming they come from "apostate" websites, etc.

it is about 10 minutes long.

Nina

Remember the definition of a lie from the Insight book: "The opposite of truth. Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person."

There are two conditions that must be met before the "saying" is considered a lie:

1) The listener must be entitled to know the truth

2) The speaker's intent must be to deceive or injure the listener or some other person

Does this elder consider that the court is entitled to know the truth?

Does this elder have the intent to deceive or injure the listener or some other person?

What do you think the elder's answer to these questions would be? The elder is, apparently, clean in his own eyes.

Read up on "Lie" in the Insight book, it's very informative. Try this from Volume 2, Page 245, column 2, paragraph 2:

"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it." After quoting Mt 7:6 the paragraph continues: "That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unneccessary harm." A few more scriptural citations follow and the paragraph ends with this: "Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light." (All italics mine)

The elder did what he was trained to do and he did it well.

There was a time when I would have done exactly as he did. God forgive me.

Nina

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has anyone ever...?

by bonnzo in

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while lurking, fading, or like me, a disgruntled dud who wishes to remain anonymous, found out that a fellow poster was a relative, friend, or just someone you knew?

i found out about one when i first registered and eventually revealed myself because i trust this person.

i just found another one that i dont trust at all!

Nina

There is someone on this board who was in the same congregation as some of my family. I thought about it for a while before I made myself known to that person. Finally I realized it wouldn't hurt a thing since JW's already believe I'm the devil incarnate. Nothing has changed since we communicated, no lightning flashed, no new splits in the earth.

Nina

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WHEN DID THE PENNY DROP.....FOR YOU.

by lowden in

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what occasion or occurrence or experience made you finally say....enough is enough!!!!.

for me it was the insensitive and unfeeling way they treated me whilst dfed....for 4 yrs.

i tried and tried to please....but to no avail.. what capped it all off for you...tell me your experiences.

Nina

page 9, par. 3 of the Is There a Creator

"We invite all who have an open mind to consider this subject. The Book Belief in God and Intellectual Honesty notes that one who possesses "intellectual honesty" is characterized by a "readiness to scrutinize what one believes to be true" and "to pay sufficient attention to other evidence available."

Hmmmmm...

Nina

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