Wow, all I ever knew about Kevorkian was that he was Oregon's own Dr. Death for the states first assisted suicide. Very interesting info on his past there.
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Dr. Kevorkian endorses the WTS Child Sacrifice doctrine
by OrphanCrow inin 1966, he published an article, our unforgiveable trespass, in the journal clinical pediatrics, in support of jw parents denying their children blood transfusions and that article was used by the wts in their 1973 publication directed to the medical community - jehovah's witnesses alternatives to blood transfusions.. .
about who dr. kevorkian was at the time he wrote this article:.
http://www.biography.com/people/jack-kevorkian-9364141#early-career.
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If Your JW Parent Died Would YOU Go To The Kingdom Hall For The Talk?
by minimus ini would like your thoughts, please..
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I think I would have gone to my father's memorial if I'd been treated differently when I DID go to see him. He was diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer in March of 2012 and I got a ticket and flew down to see him in May at some cost to myself I might add. I spent 6 weeks with my sister and other family members all of us pleading to be allowed to see dad...I was not allowed on his doorstep and he wouldn't speak to me via phone or e-mail as per GB directions (which my step mother made very certain he followed). I will add right here that before stepmother got involved he HAD been speaking to me and had asked me to come down when he found out about the cancer.
My other siblings got pretty much the same treatment even though some of them had never been baptized. A lot or most of this I place sqarely upon my stepmother, a pschopathically selfish woman....and JW in 'good standing' but the GB I blame also.
Today I think I would be resolved not to attend any JW memorial even of family members...why would I when they treat me as dead while I'm living?
What a despicable religion Jehavah's witnesses are, not the individual people...well, *cough* maybe a few are truly despicable ...but the organization, yes.
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2nd and 3rd Genners -- Did the passing of the 1st/2nd Gen. cause doubts for you?
by Apognophos ini can't discuss my family history here in detail while i'm still fading, but suffice to say that i'm a third-generation witness.
my grandparents' generation of witnesses expected the end to come in the middle of the 20th century.
they led spartan lives and largely went without having kids, as they awaited the imminent new system.
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fiddler
I was a third gen person, got out at age 41. I saw my 'faithful' grandmother die in 1980, the year my second born son was born. I stayed with it through the 90's but was very discouraged by the fact that the 'generation' was indeed dying and about gone. By 1999 we got the internet and the whole house of cards came crumbling down. My father passed away in 2012 but I was already long gone out of the belief system. Still, I couldn't help but reflect on the fact that he was 82 and still the 'end' hadn't come...but oh wait! It had...for him and my grandmother...
something was very wrong about all that 'end time' reckoning.
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Kingdom melodies / B4 Copyright/JW`s stealing melodies/anyone remember this ?
by smiddy ini can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
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fiddler
I've posted before about an argument I had with another girl in my orchestra class about a song she claimed was in her church and I just was sure that could not be. I don't know the page number or even the name but it was in the old green book. If anyone reads ABC format here is a rough rendition:
key: D Maj. (the D after middle C) D..F# G A..B C# D.. C# B A....A..AA B..A.. G..F#..E....F#.. F#E D F#A D B A G F#E....A..B C# D...G F#..E..D....
It goes up and down a one octave scale....someone from the 'old timer days will figure it out!
anyway, it was removed from the pinkish lavendar book. I still use it with my beginning violin students just because it's pretty.
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What do you want for Christmas?
by Hortensia init's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.
i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.
i wouldn't mind getting any of those.
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fiddler
I just want a peaceful holiday and for my kids to all be happy. There won't be much in the way of presents this year due to the fact I'm broke but I am making what I can...this year it's going to be rice bag warmers that I'm sewing up in various sizes and fabrics, from neck wrap size to hand warmers. Also plan on baking up a storm with cookies and such!
Happy holidays to All!
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How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?
by Yondaime inplease share your experiences..
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I think my 'making it known' time came during a witch hunt that I didn't perceive until it was too late.
When someone you love asks a question and you just give an honest answer you just don't think that it spells the end of communication...not in a normal human relationship...but in JW land, saddly, that's exactly what it means. That's what happened to me.
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New here and having ah ha moments!
by Angus Beef inwhat made you realize it was time to go?
i've been having health problems for the last few years and instead of any help, i'm listed as spiritually weak and of course associations is only my kids and husband.
all the good jw's have moved to other congregations and are doing well.
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So, how IS life now, Angus beef? Have you faded successfully and can still be a grandparent? I hope so. How is hubby doing? Any other family members on way out?
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Bicyclists
by poppers ini'm wondering what sort of biking shoes and pedals you are using.
i'm a road biker, so i enjoy speed and distance riding, and am upgrading my shoes and pedals.
anyone have experience with specialized road shoes with the boa stem?
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fiddler
I think I would kill myself quickly if I actually strapped my feet to the pedals (ok, I concede it's not quite that literal) but, I am with Terry here, I ride because it's better than driving (sometimes...I live where it rains all winter) and for the sheer enjoyment of finding a good bike trail in my city.
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Your favourite dog breed ...?
by LoveUniHateExams inin an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
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fiddler
Trying to post a pic of Judge...
Don't know how to post pics here 😕
kaik...that dog is beautiful!
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Your favourite dog breed ...?
by LoveUniHateExams inin an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
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fiddler
I have a soft spot and some experience with odd mutts. our first family dog came to us on the way to the shelter. Even though she introduced herself by peeing on my floor (think she knew her situation was dire) my kids cries of glee when my father stopped by with Sasha were too much to ignor. Sasha was one half Dachshund, one half golden Lab...mom (a purebred show Dachshund) got outside and must have stood on a lawnchair but there you have it! We had Sasha for 13 years. I waited another 12 years and now have another interesting mutt and great dog. His name is Judge and he is part Red Heeler and part Shar Pei. He's proving to be a most loyal friend and protector. He does have the issues that go with Shar Pei's...skin allergies and such. But we are dealing with those. I call him my fair skinned freckled red head.