Nothing new under the sun...or moon...or stars...
the Bible is full of old urban legends.
humanity...or at leasta portion of humanity...loves urban legends...and mythology...and fairytales...and Santa Claus
what else is new?
fiddler
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urban legends
by chirac indear brothers ans sisters.
i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.
do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.
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urban legends
by chirac indear brothers ans sisters.
i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.
do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.
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fiddler
I remember hearing a similar story about Clinton too. It struck me, do these stories only come up with Democratic presidents? Don't want to start any Dem/Repub debate but it just struck me that I never heard of Bush getting approached by jdubs.
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Do JWs take Genesis literally?
by undercover inas i grew up as a jw it seemed that we accepted genesis was a literal account with the only question being how long a creative day was.
for the longest time, as best as i can recall, a creative day was considered a thousand years long, based on the ole "a thousand years is as a day to jehovah" rule.. somewhere though, it seems that there was some waffling on how long a creative day was.
especially since science was showing that the earth was millions of years old.. since i've faded i wonder, do jws today consider genesis as a literal account of how things were created, even if they can't explain the exact length of a creative day?.
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fiddler
As a 'born in' I was taught that the creative days were an indeterminate length BUT the old study books were pretty definite about when Adam came about...or at least when the talking snake event happened...4026 BCE! From that date the whole 1975 thing came about. Also from that date you can do the math with all the begets and begats and wind up with the 'global flood' happening about 2370 BCE. Yeah right! As was already discussed in prevuious comments that was not likely But really, as far as the Adam and Eve and talking snake account goes, they can never let that one go. Their whole reason for Jesus coming hinges on that story. If you call Adam and Eve just a story/morality (?!?) tale or fable then so is Jesus....but wait...so IS Jesus. -
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This New Site
by smiddy ini was a bit bamboozled at first , and now slowly getting the hang of it , the new tools we can use to navigate through it.. change is always hard for us old farts .. smiddy.
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fiddler
Ahh! Got a new avatar image...my Steampunk thing. OK...i can go with that. -
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This New Site
by smiddy ini was a bit bamboozled at first , and now slowly getting the hang of it , the new tools we can use to navigate through it.. change is always hard for us old farts .. smiddy.
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fiddler
I have finally just signed on...that was easy enough...but I hear you, change gets harder with age! -
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Dr. Kevorkian endorses the WTS Child Sacrifice doctrine
by OrphanCrow inin 1966, he published an article, our unforgiveable trespass, in the journal clinical pediatrics, in support of jw parents denying their children blood transfusions and that article was used by the wts in their 1973 publication directed to the medical community - jehovah's witnesses alternatives to blood transfusions.. .
about who dr. kevorkian was at the time he wrote this article:.
http://www.biography.com/people/jack-kevorkian-9364141#early-career.
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fiddler
Wow, all I ever knew about Kevorkian was that he was Oregon's own Dr. Death for the states first assisted suicide. Very interesting info on his past there.
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If Your JW Parent Died Would YOU Go To The Kingdom Hall For The Talk?
by minimus ini would like your thoughts, please..
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fiddler
I think I would have gone to my father's memorial if I'd been treated differently when I DID go to see him. He was diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer in March of 2012 and I got a ticket and flew down to see him in May at some cost to myself I might add. I spent 6 weeks with my sister and other family members all of us pleading to be allowed to see dad...I was not allowed on his doorstep and he wouldn't speak to me via phone or e-mail as per GB directions (which my step mother made very certain he followed). I will add right here that before stepmother got involved he HAD been speaking to me and had asked me to come down when he found out about the cancer.
My other siblings got pretty much the same treatment even though some of them had never been baptized. A lot or most of this I place sqarely upon my stepmother, a pschopathically selfish woman....and JW in 'good standing' but the GB I blame also.
Today I think I would be resolved not to attend any JW memorial even of family members...why would I when they treat me as dead while I'm living?
What a despicable religion Jehavah's witnesses are, not the individual people...well, *cough* maybe a few are truly despicable ...but the organization, yes.
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2nd and 3rd Genners -- Did the passing of the 1st/2nd Gen. cause doubts for you?
by Apognophos ini can't discuss my family history here in detail while i'm still fading, but suffice to say that i'm a third-generation witness.
my grandparents' generation of witnesses expected the end to come in the middle of the 20th century.
they led spartan lives and largely went without having kids, as they awaited the imminent new system.
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fiddler
I was a third gen person, got out at age 41. I saw my 'faithful' grandmother die in 1980, the year my second born son was born. I stayed with it through the 90's but was very discouraged by the fact that the 'generation' was indeed dying and about gone. By 1999 we got the internet and the whole house of cards came crumbling down. My father passed away in 2012 but I was already long gone out of the belief system. Still, I couldn't help but reflect on the fact that he was 82 and still the 'end' hadn't come...but oh wait! It had...for him and my grandmother...
something was very wrong about all that 'end time' reckoning.
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Kingdom melodies / B4 Copyright/JW`s stealing melodies/anyone remember this ?
by smiddy ini can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
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fiddler
I've posted before about an argument I had with another girl in my orchestra class about a song she claimed was in her church and I just was sure that could not be. I don't know the page number or even the name but it was in the old green book. If anyone reads ABC format here is a rough rendition:
key: D Maj. (the D after middle C) D..F# G A..B C# D.. C# B A....A..AA B..A.. G..F#..E....F#.. F#E D F#A D B A G F#E....A..B C# D...G F#..E..D....
It goes up and down a one octave scale....someone from the 'old timer days will figure it out!
anyway, it was removed from the pinkish lavendar book. I still use it with my beginning violin students just because it's pretty.
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What do you want for Christmas?
by Hortensia init's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.
i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.
i wouldn't mind getting any of those.
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fiddler
I just want a peaceful holiday and for my kids to all be happy. There won't be much in the way of presents this year due to the fact I'm broke but I am making what I can...this year it's going to be rice bag warmers that I'm sewing up in various sizes and fabrics, from neck wrap size to hand warmers. Also plan on baking up a storm with cookies and such!
Happy holidays to All!