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An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico
by OrphanCrow indr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.
in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?
": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..
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fiddler
Revitalizing cultures through indigenous language is a noble thing but what Watchtower is doing is every bit as destructive as the colonial version. The paper by Jena is very good although a pretty deep read. She got it! If Watchtower is being funded in any way to carry out their deceptive agenda I hope it stops when revelations like this come out. -
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fiddler
They just sound to me like the rantings of your average conspiracy theorist. You can't argue or reason with them when they're in that mindset (always in that mindset) Only time is on the side of reason. We just have to wait it out and maybe a few more will wake up.
Dog of Madog d-rules!
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Will there ever be another campaign like the 2006 one with kn37 ("The End of False Religion Is Near!")?
by Magnum inremember the 2006 tract campaign with kingdom news 37 - the end of false relgion is near!?
it seems to me that jwdom has changed to the point that there will not be anymore such campaigns.
it seems that the new rebranded jwdom is too soft for such a campaign; it's too feel-good, happy-clappy, and mainstream.. i just can't imagine a tract campaign like that coming from the new jwdom.
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fiddler
2006? I remember being all pumped up about the destruction of Babylon the great back in 1974 with the kingdom news tracts that were compared to Joshua's army marching around Jericho before the walls fell down...yeah right.
And that was what, 40 years ago. Armegeddon was Soooo imminent back then. I was barely supposed to graduate high school.
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The Cruelty of JW's
by Blackfalcon98 inso i was scrolling my social media account and i saw this from a dub: .
"i think the bible account of jael is probably my favorite.
she was very courageous when she drove that pin into sisera's head....while he was asleep!
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fiddler
Bloodthirsty tribalism of the OT alive and well established in the reality of ISIL.
Example of unevolved humanity stuck in the barbarity of bronze age tribalism...or califism...whatever.
yes, most JW's haven't got a clue about what they are really wishing for.
careful what you wish for as the old adage goes.
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Christian bakery ordered to pay $150 000 to gay couple
by cofty inan oregon bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage has lost its appeal..... the judge has ordered 'sweet cakes by melissa' to pay $150 000 damages to rachel and laurel bowman-cryer.. discrimination is illegal, and religious superstition is not an excuse.
how long before jws land in court under similar circumstances?.
read more....
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fiddler
Then there's the thing in Colorado...
This is from a Channel 9 News report from Jan. 20
DENVER - Azucar Bakery on South Broadway is under investigation for religious discrimination by the Civil Rights division of the Department of Regulatory Agencies stemming from a March 2014 incident.
WHAT HAPPENED
A customer came into the store and requested a couple of cakes in the shape of Bibles, according to the owner Marjorie Silva.
Silva says the man pulled out a piece of paper with hateful phrases like "God hates gays" and requested her to write them on his cakes. He wouldn't let employees make a copy of the paper and would not read the words out loud, Silva claims. The bakery owner also says the customer wanted an image of two men holding hands with an "X" on top.
"After I read it, I was like 'No way,'" Silva said. "'We're not doing this. This is just very discriminatory and hateful.'"
Silva then received a complaint from DORA for religious discrimination.
"It's unfair that he's accusing me of discriminating when I think he was the one that is discriminating," Silva said.
DORA's consumer protection role allows the ability for consumers to file complaints against businesses for alleged discrimination. The Civil Rights division reviews and investigates the claims, and if the agency feels discriminatory acts were committed, the case moves forward to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.
THE OTHER SIDE
9NEWS has learned Bill Jack, from Castle Rock, was the customer accusing Azucar Bakery of discrimination.
Jack is a founder of Worldview Academy, which is a "non-denominational organization dedicated to helping Christians think and live in accord with a Biblical worldview," according to the organization's website.
Jack's biography on the website says he is currently an educator who used to teach in public schools in the past, adding that he has appeared on numerous national radio and TV programs.
9NEWS asked why he requested a cake at Azucar Bakery and what he asked to have written on it.
He declined to answer but gave 9NEWS this statement:
"I believe I was discriminated against by the bakery based on my creed. As a result, I filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights division. Out of respect for the process, I will wait for the director to release his findings before making further comments."
Nancy Leong, a University of Denver law professor, has been looking into this case and doesn't believe Silva violated any laws.
"This is not a situation where a business owner denied service to somebody," Leong said. "She offered to accommodate him to the extent that she could. In fact, requiring her to write that message would infringe on her own free speech rights."
WHAT'S NEXT
DORA will rule whether Jack was discriminated against, but a decision is not expected for at least a couple of months, since the agency requested an extension.
Based on the agency's findings, the case could reach the Civil Rights commission.
(KUSA-TV © 2015 Multimedia Holdings Corporation)
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Essay by Barbara Anderson: "What's in a Name?"
by AndersonsInfo inwhats in a name?
posted on april 15, 2014 by barbara anderson http://watchtowerdocuments.org/whats-in-a-name/ .entry-meta-icons .entry-meta .
.entry-header one morning at bethel in 1989, after the usual text discussion before breakfast, there was an announcement to the staff about the legalization of jehovahs witnesses in poland.
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fiddler
Enjoy your writings always Barbara!
I used to try to keep up to date on the many names or ways to refer to the JW religion. Now, not so much...I call them 'the society', JW's but also by the most accurate name 'destructive cult' and can't leave out 'the Borg'! This rebranding just seems ridiculous to me but as one of your other essays on the history of JW's makes clear...it's nothing really new to them. Their name changes with their updating of outdated info.
Anyway, I also wanted to relate a little story about my introduction to YOU. Although I didn't know at the time it was you being spoken of I'm pretty certain now that it was. It was shortly before I left the religion for good in 1999 and two sisters were discussing 'That Woman' in rather snarling tones. I was giving a violin lesson to the daughter of one of the sisters and so only got bits of the conversation but I always was curious as to who 'That Woman' was. I got the impression she was placed pretty high up in the organization (high for a woman anyway) and that she was some kind of super traitor.
LOL! Like I said, I figured out a few years later that it was probably you. As I said, I love your writings and I now know that you, like Ray Franz, were not a traitor but a whistle blower. Thank you so much for all your very important work!
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Jw still believe 4026 B.C.E as Adams creation...?
by thedepressedsoul ini was doing some "research" and came across jw articles that all talk about 4026 b.c.e as adams creation.
it even went as far as to state, "there are no actual records of ancient man, his writing, agriculture, and other pursuits, extending into the past before 4026 b.c.e., the date of adams creation.
since the scriptures outline mans history from the very creation of the first human pair, there can be no such thing as prehistoric man.
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fiddler
I imagine this very question, 'does the organization still say Adam was created in 4026 BCE?) that I asked my JW daughter was considered 'persecution' and 'spiritual endangerment' back when I asked it. I got labeled an apostate and shunned for that and similar questions. You should have seen the 'deer in the headlights' look I got. I don't think she even knew that was the official teaching.
This subject has got to be one of the most uncomfortable subjects for a lot of Christians since if one considers it in a logical way, it effectively nullifies the whole original sin idea and the very NEED for Christ. i'll take the Buddha over the sacrificial lamb any old day. Human sacrifice! How much more barbaric does it get?
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Good Netflix shows to watch
by Simon inin the long winter nights you need some good tv shows to watch while you wait for the eternity between seasons of game of thrones.. we've watched marco polo (pretty good) and have just started watching orange is the new black which is not at all what i imagined (didn't know it was funny!).
house of cards is on the list too as we've heard good things about that.. anyone have any others that are worth seeing?.
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fiddler
I haven't watched much of Netflix for a week now because I'm bummed because I finished Season 9 of Supernatural. Damn! I gotta wait for Season 10 to come out on Netflix. My daughter got me into this series it's not my usual fare but Sam and (especially) Dean are good looking and the old classic rock music is great! It's I guess a perfect blend of humor and blood splattering the screen.
Carry on My Wayward Sons!
a little caveate: the GB specifically warned against 'Sam & Dean' so then I HAD to watch it LOL
i also like Torchwood, Warehouse 13, Dr. Who, Sherlock Holmes and Once Upon A Time.
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New JW video, song and dance
by Listener inthe current jws do not cease to amaze.
here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .
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fiddler
Couldn't they have at least used one of their own music compositions instead of a 'WORLDLY' one?
uh...probably not.
The whole production is a knock off of 'worldly' and so not jw.
The rank n file will eat it up because it ISN'T JW. But they won't see it.
idgits!
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Trashed WT's found in Dr.s' waiting room Friday. Do you trash literature you find?
by Wasanelder Once intook the magazines in the waiting room and dumped them in the trash.
was a great feeling.
to think many witnoids wont dare throw out the surplus magazines they have in stacks around the house is amazing.
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fiddler
Print up address lables that say jwfacts.com and stick them in front cover of books and mags. There are two neighborhood book exchange boxes around my neighborhood and the dubs regularly deposit their trash in them. i'd rather discreetly stick a label in a book than toss them? Did the same with laundrymat mags.