I would like to be able to live a longer healthier life and die peacefully then be reincarnated so that I could experience childhood again and make different decisions and hopefully better ones. I'm already putting in my request for non religious, highly intelligenct parents who believe in education LOL!
fiddler
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Would you like to live for ever on earth?
by fulano ini was discussing this topic with two friends of mine, ex jws, a few nights ago.
i think it would be boring after a while.
you can't smoke, have to drink with moderation (difficult in europe with all the wines).
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Should I Shun My Dog?
by snugglebunny insome background:josie the miniature schnauzer is now 12 years old, so she's old enough to know the difference between right and wrong.
however, she insists on peeing in the middle of my beautifully tended lawn, which, as a consequence, is now covered in brown patches.
i've remonstrated with her a number of times and each time she purports to show a diplay of repentance, that is, she slinks away on her belly with her ears flattened down tightly to her head.
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What triggered your doubts / awakening?
by Tornintwo ini am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
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I actually had a bit of a melt down...mid life crisis...and ended up doing something that was DF worthy but there was so much that led up to the melt down. Lack of love and gossip within the Congregation was certainly a big factor but so was the Bible itself. The change in generation doctrine in 1995 bugged me but even more than that was listening to the paralells in radical Islam and what I was reading in the Bible. Being a woman I felt very offended by the patriarchal attitudes of the Bible. It is sad that the JWs actually can point the finger at me and say I did do something DF worthy (in their book) but there are so many Jdubs that are accepted back into the congregation after doing the same. The difference was that I didn't go back. They think it is because of 'pride' but that is not the case. My mistakes are my own and I own them and have been forgiven for them by most everyone that mattered (with the exception of my JW daughter).
I didn't go back because I dug deeper and found the whole belief system AND the Bible to be seriously flawed. My journey out was probably the culmination of a lot of cognitive dissonance but unfortunately, I will not be taken seriously by most Jdubs because of my early mistakes. I'm so glad that there are so many now that left solely because of disbelief. So many of you are sticking with your JW mates while being treated abhorently in the name of this religion.
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What did you think when you visit the museum as a JW.
by James Mixon inwhen you stood there in front of that dinosaur display did you connect the.
dots, or did you like me believe that they made a mistake in calculating their.
ages.
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I believed what my dad told me, that Dino's were big massive vegetation lawn mowers that would later die and provide oil for humans later. He believed this was all in Jehovah's plan...yeh right...oil!!
when I was young there was a lot more church attendance and a higher percentage that believed the Bible was from God so it was not just JW'S. I recently was viewing an old Looney Tunes cartoon, black and white so really old, and in it was a caveman alongside dinosaurs. I think it was more or less the general opinion in the mid 20th century among the bible believing populace that Dino's and humans coexisted. No one really Thought about it so when we saw Dino bones at a museum we just went "ooh, isn't that big?"
It wasn't until the Internet for me that I started putting the time frames together and THINKING about it and it truly was wtf moment. Before I just didn't go any deeper than what I was told and I think JW'S aren't the only ones that did that.
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If the Watchtower truly collapsed, how would you deal with your JW relatives?
by nicolaou inimagine the best case scenario.
the watchtower society implodes from within even making final printed admissions that it is voluntarily dismantling it's mission and legally dissolving the corporations.
oh happy day!
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I would embrace any of my family or friends that sought me out. I would hold them while they cried and I would assure them that there is a whole universe out there and lots of places to go....baby steps at a time but as many here know, those baby steps often take off running pretty quickly when the scales fall off the eyes. As for the older ones with few years left that would be harder. While I don't believe in a god in the manner that they do, I wouldn't push my views. My spirituality is my own personal thing as it should be (IMO). For the older ones I think I'd just say that God is about love and no loving God would abandon them because of an organization gone bad. If they just continued on with the most important 'commandment' to love and also 'be modest in walking with their God' then that is their most important obligation in this life.
Something like that.....
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A Toast to All the Brave Kids Who Broke Up with Their Toxic Moms
by rebel8 insometimes holidays can be hard on us.
some of us deserve a little toast today.. a toast to all the brave kids who broke up with their toxic moms.
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fiddler
I suppose my JW daughter could read toxicity into me because anything I say including 'I love you' threatens her faith.
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the age of adam when he died, anyone know?
by brandnew inand if so, does this mean that adam had already invented a timetable, and calendar?
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Oh, Adam had lots of other offspring but they were GIRLS! Bible didn't count them.
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Tennessee-JW Angela Montgomery sentenced today to 40 years in prison for raping her own children
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://wkrn.com/2015/05/06/murfreesboro-mom-sentenced-to-40-years-for-raping-own-children/.
murfreesboro mom sentenced to 40 years for raping own children.
by larry flowers published: may 6, 2015, 4:59 pm updated: may 6, 2015, 6:53 pm .
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Steve, I wasn't taking a hard nosed stance. I've felt the same about some allegations against men as well. The fact that the mother didn't have anything to say was significant to be sure but some of the monster women (and men) that I've either known or read about seemed to be pretty vocal in their defense. I will look up the case as I should have done before commenting here.
edited to add: looked it up and yes, she sounds like a monster. It was the reference to breastfeeding that seemed out of place.
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Who are the people in JW TV videos?
by HappyDad inout of curiosity, i have caught a glimpse or two of the "drama" style videos.
are the ones in these televised "dramas" jw's or did they hire actors for the job?
i can't see the average jw being able to do acting as good (if you will call it good) as some of these people.
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Hey, Acting is what a lot of JWs do best. Reading scripted talks and putting together mock D2D skits...acting like they are the 'happiest people on earth'. They're actually pretty good at it! Being in a drama is for some, who actually do have acting talent but will never get to use that talent, the highlight of their life sadly. -
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Tennessee-JW Angela Montgomery sentenced today to 40 years in prison for raping her own children
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://wkrn.com/2015/05/06/murfreesboro-mom-sentenced-to-40-years-for-raping-own-children/.
murfreesboro mom sentenced to 40 years for raping own children.
by larry flowers published: may 6, 2015, 4:59 pm updated: may 6, 2015, 6:53 pm .
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I know there are horrible people out there so I'm not saying this didn't happen but I would like to hear what testimony really sealed the case. Just the man saying things happened could also be because he is the 'horrible person'. I don't know and if he indeed did endure this at the hands of his own mother then she deserves to be locked away but he also mentioned her breast feeding other people's babies. That is not rape and in times past, being a wet nurse was common practice...just saying....something didn't sound right in the little bit I saw on that news report.