Posts by fiddler

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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

by 3rdgen in

a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

fiddler

Well this thread certainly has brought up long forgotten memories! Yes, I remember the 15 minute breaks! Yes, we kids used to run around in the parking lot (lots of admonitions about watching out for cars and maybe NOT running around in the parking lot). I also remember some going out for a smoke. At some point (maybe after 1975) when it was the rank & file JW leaving during the break it seems THAT was when they stopped the break because too many witnesses were leaving after the talk...not just studies.

Anybody here used to go to Sqaw Peak Congo in Phoenix? (Sorry for the politically incorrect name but that was what it was called). This thread brought back all kinds of memories of that place to me.

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

fiddler

I think FISHERMAN responds like a Bot. There are over 50 pages in this post and the ones about the goings on at Bethel are a great read. The many responses from fisherman are repetitive space taking nonsense. He/she/bot's comments are like junk mail. Aside from that though, I've enjoyed the discussion!

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If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

fiddler

LOL!! Giordano, that cowboy poem was great.

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An amazing interview by Sam Harris

by The_Doctor10 in

sam harris did this interview with megan phelps formerly of the infamous westboro baptist church, and i got to say holy $#!

@ the parallels to jw indoctrination/beliefs is actually pretty astonishing.. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/leaving-the-church.

highly recommend everyone listen to this interview, especially if you're on the fence about continuing as a jw or in any other overbearing cult/religion..

fiddler

Wow! That was excellent. It would be a very good conversation for any JWs to listen to 'cause hey, They think the Westboro Baptist peeps are crazy! (Don't they?....I certainly would have back in my JW self personae.)

thanks for that!

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Could this happen to you?

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

there was a jw who was a born in and faded about 10 years ago near a congregation i attended.

he never married or had children and was in his late 30's.

his parents shun him for the most part but then he had a major stroke.

fiddler

I have had this thought about myself. What if I had a stroke or dementia and somehow all I knew was stuff from my past? Yes, I think Advance Directive is the key. Isn't it funny how to go back would involve mental incapacity?

Actually, no...it isn't funny if it is me.

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Advice Needed - JW Grandparents

by What Now? in

my family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..

weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.

our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.

fiddler

Everyone's comments have been great but one thing I have been thinking while reading this thread is about how respectful YOU have been. You don't bring up questions or say things against the organization. Is there a way to respectfully ask that they show the same consideration to you and keep the religious (or however you want to phrase it) talk turned way down. The Bible stories are of mature subject matter and not appropriate for small children because it gives them nightmares or something like that. How did those stories sit with you as a kid? I know that even when I was a JW I did not read Bible stories to my kids for story time. I felt, even then, that they were too harsh.

I am also on the other side of this fence in that I am the exjw grandmother and am completely cut off from my grandson who is 4 1/2. My daughter never even gave me the chance to hammer out some rules about what things I could not discuss with him. All I wanted really was to hold him and take him to the park and buy him ice cream and stuff like that. I have been collecting Brio toys for him in hopes that some day before he's too old he can come to grandmas house to play with them. Can't let go of hope...It's never a two way street however with JWs is it? It's 'my way or the highway'.

PS: I do have a granddaughter and another on the way with my other kids out of the religion so the train set won't go to waste!

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We can no longer support "religious freedom" says the ACLU

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-should-amend-the-abused-religious-freedom-restoration-act/2015/06/25/ee6aaa46-19d8-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html

fiddler

I'm reading Christopher Hitchens "god is not Great" and the statement he makes repeatedly, "religion poisons everything", is so true.

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pissed off my wife today at the assembly..I asked her why the bozo GB member lett has a pinky ring.

by goingthruthemotions in

so at the assembly to day that nitwit lett gave a talk....i noticed right away he had a pinky ring.

i asked my wife what was the purpose of the pinky ring?

and then asked....would jesus wear a pinky?

fiddler

"Why should you antagonize your wife with negative comments about the WT? Because not to do it sets the line way back, and the more so, the stronger the WT's hold will be over your life, to cramp you into paralysis.

She needs to know you love her but you hate the cult for the hypocrisy they show. Keep showing her love and affection for the person she is, not for the slave of the Gobbering Body she let's her selfbe.

Keep reminding her every time there's such an obvious show of hypocrisy like wearing pinky rings but telling kids to hand over their ice-cream money. "

ThAT is what I meant! Thankyou oppostate for clarifying. I'm pushing 60 and believe myself to be quite 'grown up' but this thing where WE are supposed to cower to their diatribes and say Nothing just doesn't sit well with me.

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pissed off my wife today at the assembly..I asked her why the bozo GB member lett has a pinky ring.

by goingthruthemotions in

so at the assembly to day that nitwit lett gave a talk....i noticed right away he had a pinky ring.

i asked my wife what was the purpose of the pinky ring?

and then asked....would jesus wear a pinky?

fiddler

I wouldn't be so hard on Goingthruthemotions. You can 'piss off' a JW by sharing the same air space. It takes very little to upset their 'faith'. They, on the other hand, have no qualms about saying JWdotORG org this and that and going on and on about how great the last talk was or whatever. IMO Goingthruthemotions is in a very frustrating place and I feel for him. JW'S all need to be verbally slapped around a bit any chance one gets they're all freakin' zombies.

Bad mood today I guess

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Videos at the a$$emb£ies?

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that they are getting shown videos very regularly at the 2 day convention(tm).. i figured it may be because the wbt$ wants mass indoctrination using their tried and tested propaganda techniques.. the average elder won't be aware that the wbt$ uses these thought reform techniques so will be incapable of using them himself.

also, the elder might not put the money grabbing, 1984 ministry of truth spin on things and actually say something good instead.

we know the wbt$ don't like 'good'!

fiddler

That was a brilliant word twist there Punk! Always been easy to use $$ for S's but the £ for L's...have remember that!