i was recently reminded of the jw line that "even the pope" once got contaminated blood.
you know, what they say when they run out of scriptures and try to pretend that their stance is really about health and not about fear of dying armageddon (like they'd let their child die if they weren't jw's.
so i decided to do something that no jehovah's witness ever does, which is actually double check some facts.
Does this make me Mulder?
In 1981 Mehmet Ali Agca attempted to assassinate John Paul II in St. Peter?s Square. The Pope received several blood transfusions and contracted a cytomegalovirus (CMV) infection that put his life in grave danger once again, due likely to one or more contaminated blood units. A team of physicians, including Dr. Thomas Merigan from Stanford University, was called in for consultation. http://www.catholic-sf.org/101703.html
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a woman and two of her cousins are suing the seekonk and attleboro, massachussetts congregations of jehovah's witnesses for compensation, as well as her stepfather, a former ministerial servant, who pled guilty to abusing her last year.. see "woman sues church" at.
http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2004/09/18/city/city1.bxt
Thank you for the information. Please post this info in the "Child Abuse" Section!
if any one has been a regular such as i have in the silent lambs site you will have noticed it has changed for the worse..as of last week i decided to withdraw from my membership...the site was designed by bill to vent, explain and devulge abuse that we have witnessed or experienced..as in my case as a former m.s i had seen two coverups in my hall...the parents to afraid to go to the police and the elders screaming jehovah will leave them if they tell on the org is the crime i had to bare with..so i spoke up and left the org...silent lambs was for that reason...now.
it has mutated to a cheap lowlevel site for apologist and non witness who want to argue on unrelated topics..to top it off bill has given the site to an editor who is so silly and more involved than the participants why bother anymore....to bill..you lost your way...
Simon: Toucher
us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.
Of course, Europeans can't seem to understand that Americans hate their own government with a passion
Czar: You are a funny one. Just a reminder, when jacking off your shotgun remember to exclude the rest of us...
WE(?) DON'T WANT YOU AROUND!
A little reality check, the Euro is b-smacking the Dollar right now, and in 10 years the EU could surpass the US as a world power. Our elderly are sneaking into Canada to buy illegal prescription medication, and in retrospect France and Germany where right about Iraq. The US is a great country, but it isn't the only one.
Oops, did I just get political?
what's on your mind?
share your darkest, deepest thoughts with us......
Minimus doth protest to much... What's on your mind Mini?
if any one has been a regular such as i have in the silent lambs site you will have noticed it has changed for the worse..as of last week i decided to withdraw from my membership...the site was designed by bill to vent, explain and devulge abuse that we have witnessed or experienced..as in my case as a former m.s i had seen two coverups in my hall...the parents to afraid to go to the police and the elders screaming jehovah will leave them if they tell on the org is the crime i had to bare with..so i spoke up and left the org...silent lambs was for that reason...now.
it has mutated to a cheap lowlevel site for apologist and non witness who want to argue on unrelated topics..to top it off bill has given the site to an editor who is so silly and more involved than the participants why bother anymore....to bill..you lost your way...
it has mutated to a cheap lowlevel site for apologist and non witness who want to argue on unrelated topics
I don't see what you are talking about. What specifically are you pointing at? Check it out for yourself...
i miss you blondie!
here is a link to this week's wt study with brief comments: .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/78097/1.ashx
I miss you Blondie! Here is a link to this week's WT study with brief comments:
us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.
I find it interesting how political this thread has become. I think its time for a plain discussion about how US protects cults under the guise of "freedom of religion".
It is true that the roots of US have to do with religious freedom, especially when we consider that the whole Thankgiving holiday is based in religious pilgrims seeking refuge from persecution in England.
But times have changed. Now we have a whole host of savvy cults that stake their legitimacy on the noble principles of the US constitution. The Moonies believe US leniency is God's plan to allow them to grow so that their "theocracy" can take over. JWs believe that governments are put in place by God to keep social order until God's obliterates them for refusing to worship Him.
But both cults and hundreds more are well funded with powerful lobbyists/lawyers to maintain their human mind machine. Scientologists even bought the rights to the CAN (Cults Awareness Network) in a bazarre publicity takeover. Sun Myung Moon (leader of the Moonies or Unification Church) was a guest a Reagan's inauguration.
I respect the US constitution and it original motivations. The fact that cults hide under the US flag so that they can freely decieve our population should give us all a clue that there is a serious problem here in the US.
Jonestown and Waco were both lead by US cults. Both were mishandled by the US government. Why? I say because there is little cult awareness in this country. France, Belgium and many other European countries see things with a clearer eye.
The Watchtower corporations are a big-money company posing as a religion to world governments and its members. Its publishing is only a front - its real business is people, and they keep the dollars rolling be enslaving their members.
FACT: If JWs removed its mind control program, especially the threat of banishment by disfellowshipping, its organization would fall to pieces.
Heathen: I've read your profile and it is plain you have no idea what it is like on the inside of a mind control cult. I was that 13 year-old baptized as a JW who thought I made the best choice possible. I am still a JW because of the ramifications of my social slavery. You are a sucker if you believe that "freedom of religion" can be taken at face value. The moment you decieve or force someone to "believe", you have violated that tenent. Why should groups who do that seek protection under "freedom of religion"? What irony.
yes, that's right.. i love them.
i love everyone.... "love your neighbor as yourself".... does it specify which neighbors?
the good ones?
I love you too FMZ.
us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.
Heathen:
I think you will find that there are many parents on this board that will disagree with you (Hi Corvin!). The problem is that JWs don't just "teach" the Bible to their kids.
Answer this: What freedom of religion do JW youth have? Be consistant Heathen.
The evil is that they encourage their babies to get baptized, I've heard as young as 8 years old (!) more commonly at 13-14 years. Once the children are baptized (the kid thinks he/she has made a choice to serve Jehovah) they are trapped because their entire support system is JWs. The only way out is DFing or Disassociation.
Now if JWs let their kids
then I would have no issue.
80-90% of US growth is coming from JW kids getting baptized! It's their last resource - the little ones.
