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  ***24 HOURS from now***

  by sf in

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  .... skally.

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  whats going on? interview? press release? youtube?
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  The God Delusion

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  i've been wanting to post this for awhile, but didn't.. i said something about a year ago in regards to dawkins that i have to retract.

  i had made a comment re him which was just rude and made more likely out of being scared or possibly just plain ignorance.

  can't find it, but it's quite possible that some might recall it.

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  i read most of it.

  i found it as preachy as a religious book but did appreciate a lot of the points he made.As the book went along the preachiness did ease up some. the jw's evolution book is mentioned about 3/4 thru the book.

  i do reccomend it , it is an informative read . i've not read any of Sagan's although i have had them reccomended to me.
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  Tower of Babel - /another thing/ God didn't have to do.

  by Awakened07 in

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  we all know the story of the tower of babel, and there are lots of things one can discuss around the topic, like for instance how god actually didn't allow mankind to 'experiment' with governing themselves, but chose to intervene whenever they seemed to get close to being united.. however - that is not the topic of this thread (and has been covered in other threads already).. .

  so - what do i mean when i say "another thing god didn't have to do"?.

  the first of the things i'm referring to, is the diversity of life itself, as it happens through evolution by cumulative steps of naturally selected, inherited traits over the generations of a population (i'm not going to go into detail here).. so - over to the other thing that god didn't have to do:.

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  More Gilead goodies! - Advice for 'people from poor countries'

  by sir82 in

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  here's the latest snippet of an e-mail from a friend of a friend in the current gilead class.

  this is his recap of part of one of their lectures in class:.

  ...1 cor 7:17-24 speaks about .

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  recently a friend and i were discussing these notes from gilead posted by sir82 ( there are several and if you've not read them.. read them!!)

  bumping this one up so it'll be in my post history..also, was the illegal alien broohaha as prominent in 2005 as it was in 06 and 07?

  dunno why they'd complain about the illegals, thats where most of the growth in the usa is now , in the foreign speaking congregations ..but i'm sure all the jw's there are legal .
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  BBC Radio 5 Live recording and transcript

  by IT Support in

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  thanks for your call, peter.

  should a doctor be able to override a patients wishes?.

  lets take just one more call before we let you go.

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  RB] No one tells you, no elder within the church, ever tells anybody they shouldn’t have a blood transfusion?

  [ER] No, no one can tell you what you should, or shouldn’t, do, Richard. Each one must make their own decision.

  boy the part where he interviews ER ( ernie reid) just infuriates me

  ER is double talking like crazy to protect the org from lawsuits.
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  NEED HELP WITH 'NEW LIGHT' & THE GENERATION DOCTRINE

  by Mary in

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  i was talking to gumby today and he told me that one elder that he knows said: "...he heard a gb mention of some new light about the "generation".

  he said the gb member said they now believe that scripture applied to only the annointed...".

  have we had any discussions on jwd about this?

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  sounds like that elder reads here!
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  Tutankhamun's Face

  by snowbird in

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  what did you think of it?

  i would like to see it up close and personal.. i wonder if jcanon is going to come back and expound on king tut's short reign since he has done so many posts on his father, akhenaten.. sylvia.

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  he looks like barbara streisand!
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  ''Miracle Wheat'' in the news today

  by candidlynuts in

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  the brooklynn eagle's ''today in history'' .

  an excerpt is posted below.

  there's more to the story on the link.

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  i didnt mean to offend any bible students who revere the man.

  just posted the newspaper article.

  as far as i'm concerned he's fair game for scrutiny because he also started the religion that took my family away.
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  ''Miracle Wheat'' in the news today

  by candidlynuts in

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  the brooklynn eagle's ''today in history'' .

  an excerpt is posted below.

  there's more to the story on the link.

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  The brooklynn eagle's ''today in history''

  an excerpt is posted below. there's more to the story on the link.

  good money making scheme back in the day! lol

  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=23&id=16437

  On This Day in History: November 1 Watchtower vs. Eagle by Brooklyn Eagle ([email protected]), published online 11-01-2007

  BROOKLYN — The original Brooklyn Daily Eagle (1841-1955) never passed by an opportunity for a good story and an exposé appeared in the Nov. 1, 1916 issue. This one concerned one of Brooklyn’s most renowned citizens in the late 1800s — Pastor Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916) — founder of the religious sect now known as Jehovah’s Witnesses, the international headquarters of which is located in Brooklyn Heights. Followers of Russell so believed in his teachings they originally called themselves “Russellites.” These days, the Witnesses are seen handing out their publications on the streets or in door-to-door visitations. Many residences and business buildings in Brooklyn Heights are utilized by the sect, the older ones beautifully restored. Miracle Wheat $1 Per Pound The Eagle’s story, based on an ad Russell placed in his WatchTower publication for wheat seed the growth of which would supposedly be miraculous, was a sensation but resulted in a lawsuit — one that the Eagle won! This is a reprint of the article in part: “After the ‘work’ had been well started here, ‘Pastor’ Russell’s Watch Tower publication advertised wheat seed for sale at $1.00 a pound [quite expensive in those days]. “It was styled ‘Miracle Wheat,’ and it was asserted that it would grow five times as much as any other brand of wheat. “There were other claims made for the wheat seed, and the followers were advised to purchase it, the proceeds to go to the WatchTower and be used in publishing the ‘pastor’s’ sermons. “The Eagle first made public the facts about these new ventures of the Russellites and it published a cartoon picturing the ‘Pastor’ and his ‘Miracle Wheat’ in such a way that ‘Pastor’ Russell brought suit for libel, asking $100,000 damages. “Government departments investigated the wheat for which $1.00 a pound was asked, and agents of the Government were important witnesses at the trial of the libel suit in January, 1913. “The ‘Miracle Wheat’ was low in the Government tests, they said. The Eagle won the suit.” Relevant articles appeared in The Brooklyn Daily Eagle in the month of January 1913. The titles and their dates were: 1/1: Miracle Wheat Scandal 1/22: Testimony of Russelite Beliefs 1/23-24: Testimony on ‘Miracle Wheat’ 1/25: Financial statements proving Russell’s absolute control were made by [Watch Tower] Secretary-Treasurer Van Amberg who was quoted as saying, “… We are not responsible to anyone for our expenditures. We are responsible only to God.” Russell’s 99% Some Jehovah’s Witnesses these days may wish to minimize the significance of the “Miracle Wheat,” claiming that the profits from its sales went to the Watchtower Society and not to Russell himself. However, the records show that Russell owned 990 of the 1,000 shares of Watchtower Society stock. By this figure, 99 percent of every “contribution” for Miracle Wheat” was in effect a contribution to Russell himself.
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  Shunning is Officially Psychological Torture!!

  by Maddie in

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  i found an interesting article in the wikipedia encyclopedia.

  it actually states that "shunning" is used as a method of psychological torture.. psychological torture is less well known than physical torture and tends to be subtle and much easier to conceal.

  in practice the distinction between physical and psychological torture are often blurred.

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  Organisationally : like many other procedures, once torture becomes established as part of internally acceptable norms under certain circumstances, it's use often becomes institutionalised and self- perpetuating over time, as what was once used exceptionally for perceived necessity finds more reasons claimed to justify wider use.

  Maddie do you have a link to the article?

  the above quote very much resembles the watchtower society, it used to be that disfellowshipped ones were the only ones shunned.. now it encompasses inactive people, people "marked" by special talks, or family members that arent towing the line. etc. .

  Those of us that have been shunned KNOW it is torture. those that shun feel like they're making God happy by their actions and feel self righteous and totally justified in their torture.