Thanks "Beans"! I used this site just the other day when I had to e-mail my ex-wife on some issues involving my son. Of course, she told me I didn't need to send her any of that info since she has all of it already but I think she was surprised I had any access to it since she made sure she took all the Watchtower publications with her and away from me when we split. Very useful site!
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Watchtower Quotes 4 U
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hey there all, for all those who have not yet been to the quotes site, here is the link!
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/admin-site-map.htm#publications
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Anyone know anything about the Puritans?
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hi, just wondering if any scholars out there can point me in the direction of good stuff on the puritans?
thanks, jayne
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sorry...i'm a member of the not-so-puritans...
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On a positive note...
by bavman infor those that have been out of the borg awhile...now that you are no longer part of the dubs, what positive things do you like to be involved in?
what is your' purpose in life?
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Wow! I bring up a question and come back at night to some excellent responses...thank you! Since I asked the question I suppose I should answer to some extent as well. First, I really think the answer to this question is not something we will ever know fully in this lifetime. I really think it is something we figure out for ourselves as to what is our purpose in life. I guess that's why I asked it the way I did. So far since leaving the borg I have found for the first time freedom of mind in a way I have never experienced. I appreciate this more than I can say. I think it is possible happiness is the purpose of our life because it is what we all ultimately try and achieve. For me I guess I will narrow it down to what has driven me since I was very young, probably since I was 10-13 yrs. That is, helping others in some way. This is because that is what makes me truly happy. If I can't be helpful to others you might as well shoot me because I will be miserable. This is what drove me to pioneer, work on kingdom halls, give talks and the like. I did that mainly because i believed living the borg way was the best way and the way to truly help people. In time I saw this was not the case. The borg way could in fact be very detrimental to people. I haven't believed in the borg for a few years now and have been physically absent for close to a year. I have been healing and figuring out ways to help people since this gives me purpose. I am not sure I have it all figured out yet but I have a good start I think. I do things to help myself so I can help others as well. I work a fair amount of course which helps me and my son. I am on a softball team now which mostly helps me but by extension helps others cuz all work and no play makes Bav a pain in the ass. I have also been getting into meditation and Buddhism which helps me and those around me as well. In Milwaukee we have been able to put together a small group of us ex-dubs for weekly support (if you will). I hope to see this extended in the future and perhaps that is what I will focus on since I have the background in the borg and I truly believe in Steve Hassan's appeal when he asked former members of cults to get involved. Time will tell but I will always look for new opportunity's. Thanks again for all your' responses...I personally found them to be very encouraging!
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On a positive note...
by bavman infor those that have been out of the borg awhile...now that you are no longer part of the dubs, what positive things do you like to be involved in?
what is your' purpose in life?
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For those that have been out of the borg awhile...now that you are no longer part of the dubs, what positive things do you like to be involved in? What is your' purpose in life?
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"Releasing the Bonds is Back Ordered"
by bavman inlast summer i read the book "releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves", by steve hassan.
i had gotten it at the library so i had to give it back.
i recently decided to try and buy it because i wanted on the shelf at my home.
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Have you checked out Steve Hassan's web site? www.freedomofmind.com
Yes I have. Ty. Back to the point of my post here though...the question...How much do you think people trying to leave the "borg" has to do with this backordering? Just wondering...?...
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"Releasing the Bonds is Back Ordered"
by bavman inlast summer i read the book "releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves", by steve hassan.
i had gotten it at the library so i had to give it back.
i recently decided to try and buy it because i wanted on the shelf at my home.
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Blondie wrote:
Have you tried
Let me clarify. It is true the book was on backorder but it now has come in. By recently, I mean a couple of weeks ago I ordered it. I picked it up tonight and now have it on my shelf. It is interesting to contemplate for me though just how many dubs and ex-dubs could have there hands on this book. Hopefully many more too!?
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"Releasing the Bonds is Back Ordered"
by bavman inlast summer i read the book "releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves", by steve hassan.
i had gotten it at the library so i had to give it back.
i recently decided to try and buy it because i wanted on the shelf at my home.
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Last summer I read the book "Releasing the Bonds - Empowering People to Think for Themselves", by Steve Hassan. I had gotten it at the library so I had to give it back. I recently decided to try and buy it because I wanted on the shelf at my home. When I called Border's books, Barne's and Noble and even Half Price books I soon found out the book is back ordered all over the country. The lady I talked with asked if this had just been on tv or something. I chuckled and said I really didn't think so however, there was a lot of internet work being done which promotes it. How much do you think people trying to leave the "borg" has to do with this backordering?
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I don't think it is a myth at all. I have seen it in action among many "worldly" people I have known. One lady told me once that in her family, (nice Catholic family at that), the rule was you are always family. It was VERY important to them and preached often. It didn't matter if someone became a prostitute or drug dealer, they were still family and would be treated as such. This was tempered of course by preaching of consequences for actions. It seemed to work very well as I met the whole extended family who were very close and happy. All these families I think of put my own Dub family to shame.
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Ah, I really don't know where this is. Could be photoshopped for all I know...lol!
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Welcome Econaut!!!
by bavman inwelcome econaut!!!!
i meant to do this earlier but here i go anyway.
a big welcome to a fabulous person!
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I hate to call her Peaceful Pete's wife because she has her own identity but that's who this is...