hum? I dont think so, what say yea?
Is "unconditional love" a myth??
by Brummie 171 Replies latest jw friends
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kls
Good question you cute kitty you, i think there are always conditions to love and when those conditions are broken ,there goes the love.
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EvilForce
Absolutely false. Unconditional love is a truth.
However having said that I think JW's as a "rule" have gotten it less. The love I got from my family and friends was always conditional that I did "the right" thing. I could not simply go do what I wanted without losing that. That is not unconditional love.
But I have found more love outside the organization than in it. When my friends make comments about another friend that "hurt" them they say, "Oh, he didn't mean it, he needs to find that answer himself." Like water off a duck's back. I don't too many bros and sis that wouldn't have had you in an elders meeting for stumbling them. Not loving....... PETTY.... AND FAULTFINDING. -
SixofNine
Do you love me as much as you love your children? If not, why not? ;-) Do you love your children more than you love your ex-wife?
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littlerockguy
I dont believe that unconditional love is a myth but sometimes I wonder if I have found it yet; I sure know what conditional love is!
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Bas
I think mother's love for her children is pretty much as unconditional as it gets, but still the children can fawk up things which often leaves the mommie with alot of pain. Love often leads to pain, ironic isn't?
Bas
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Brummie
I cant imagine not loving my kids/brothers/sister/mother etc. Regardless of their actions there would always be a "forgiveness" and the will to stand by them. I do not believe love is a "mushy" feeling, if it was then yes, it would be conditional. I dont believe love is soley based on any kind of feelings, if so, it would be dependant on our mood swing for the day.
There is feelings with love but it is also an act of will. Combined, I think it becomes unconditional. How can I ever stop loving my sons? I dont understand that mindset.
Good points though
Too deep, quick, pass me a ciggie.
Brummie
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Brummie
Do you love your children more than you love your ex-wife?
No I dont. Same as, but not more.
Brummie
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hopelesslystained
No, it is not a myth. It exists. Unfortunately, it does not exist within the "organization". Sixo, you? I do not know you, other than your posts, which I have been following, and I must say you are lovable, enjoyed, and appreciated, but to say I currently love you? well, that's a very good question, I would have to meet you in the flesh, spend a little time, ahemmm, and then decide...
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Odrade
I don't know Brummie, I've gone round on that one with myself many times. I guess it depends on how strictly you want to interpret it. If you stick to the purist definition of "unconditional" as being abolutely without any conditions or limitations, I'd have to say that "unconditional" love IS a myth for all but the very psychologically ill.
For instance, do I unconditionally love and continue loving someone who is revealed to me to be the perpetrator of vile acts upon other adults or children? No. If I am boundlessly in love with a man who one day starts to beat me, do I love him unconditionally? Hopefully not, or at least my love for him should be tempered by commonsense. That tempering suddenly makes it conditional.
But, if by conditions you mean that a person has to fit into certain parameters (such as a religion, education, the color of their skin, etc) in order to be loved, then I would agree that that type of unconditional love exists.
I know people use the example of a mother's love for her child as demonstrating the possibility of unconditional love... I can't really speak to that as I am not a mother. BUT, I'd have to say that Jack the Ripper's mother, had she known of his proclivities, may have found it difficult to continue loving her child without conditions.
O