i thought bill bowen did a fantastic job of spelling out to the whole nation the many frustrations i experienced while growing up as a dubbie. excellent job!
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Bill Bowen on VH-1 discussing jw sex abuse!! (MichaelJackson biography)
by sf ini am, right now, watching vh-1's history of the jacksons and in particular, the charges filed against him.. they just showed how mrs. jackson became a devout jw, showed the kh, and a few wt mags.
then, without expecting it, there was bill bowen!
talking about the epidemic of abuse in this church.
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Official WT Policy Breaks Up Families
by IT Support ingumby posted a comment about wt's disfellowshipping policy.
i checked with him where it was from, and this is the source reference:
baptized persons who have not associated for some time.
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However, when factors such as possible legal action exist, it is best to consult the Society before proceeding. (w87 9/1 p. 14)
i found this legal angle interesting...
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The Bible Students as a Healthy Alternative
by jgnat in.
for some exiting jw's, they are "true believers" as far as some of the key doctrines of the wtbts are concerned, but they feel trapped in an organization that seems far removed from its original principles.. do you think the bible students are a relatively healthy alternative to the wts machine?.
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last june when i was first trying to leave the wtbs i met up with bible students in milwaukee. i went to several meetings with them. actually, before that even i had been checking out their websites and e-mailing them. i came into contact with 1 local "brother" via e-mail and we talked many times. it was actually quite beneficial to me to help me exit because when i was in meetings with the elders i told them i wasnt in agreement with the whole notion of 1 small group (governing body) being the "faithful and discreet slave". i told them i had met another group who showed love, believed pretty much the same things and met together regularly and were worldwide. it pretty much shot down all the objections they could bring up. i think they were befuddled quite frankly. i don't think they could understand who it could be who i was talking about because of course jw's are taught all bible students are gone. of course, because i would be attending meetings outside of the dubs they still wanted to da me. i dodged them for a bit until it became more advantagous for me to da myself. i still went to bible student meetings for a little bit and enjoyed myself somewhat but soon saw many problems again. plus, i was doing additional research on the side and became agnostic. i no longer attend. yes, "rr" is a bible student. i pm'd with him as well and was on his bible student forum for a little while. he's a good guy.
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MJ's Secret Childhood - On Vh1 now
by Aude_Sapere in.
vh1 is showing the michael jackson childhood show again.
5pm pacific time
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very well done indeed! bill bowen brought out very fantastic points i had never heard mentioned on national tv before about the pcyche of jw youths growing up. excellent!
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Vigil for my daughter, please.
by outnfree inas mentioned in my other thread, my daughter lena is having brainsurgery on monday, jan 24. the surgery will last 6-7 hours, so i'm hoping the board members will be willing to make a special effort tomorrow to send positive thoughts, healing energy, good wishes and prayers her way.
we are asking that the surgeon's hands be delicate and skillful and that lena does not bleed overmuch and that brain damage be minimal (if not non-existant).
surgery begins at 8 am eastern standard time (us), but we have to have her to the hospital by 6 am, so this is "good night!
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AWESOME!!!!
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Vigil for my daughter, please.
by outnfree inas mentioned in my other thread, my daughter lena is having brainsurgery on monday, jan 24. the surgery will last 6-7 hours, so i'm hoping the board members will be willing to make a special effort tomorrow to send positive thoughts, healing energy, good wishes and prayers her way.
we are asking that the surgeon's hands be delicate and skillful and that lena does not bleed overmuch and that brain damage be minimal (if not non-existant).
surgery begins at 8 am eastern standard time (us), but we have to have her to the hospital by 6 am, so this is "good night!
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Yeah der hey, Wisconsin is going to be the new Texas dontchya know!
by Winston Smith :>D inmaybe it?s just me, but lately i?ve noticed a large army of wisconsinite apostates on this board.
what do you say gang, can we take texas as the state with the most apostates?
god knows we can drink a lot, we love to eat, and we know how to party.
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wisconsin rawks!!!!
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Why I am leaving JWD
by logansrun ini'm leaving this forum...at least temporarily.
as i mentioned in conversation over dinner at the chicago apostafest, my upcoming school schedule (which begins next week) combined with my workload will make it very difficult to be an active member on this forum.
perhaps i'll check in occassionaly when life is a little slower but for now i'd better distance myself from the on-line scene or else the other elements in my life will suffer.
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ok brad but can we still go to a cubs game together some time?
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1/15/05 Saturday Chicago Meetup--Reza's Restaurant (Clark Street)
by blondie in1/15/05 saturday chicago meetup?reza?s restaurant, 5255 n clark st (by wrigley field)
we are shooting for 5:30 pm giving us time to eat and talk and go to either the green mill or the jazz showcase afterwards.
parking: street parking possible, free lot (5238 n. clark st.)
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i'll be leaving in about a 1/2 hr. so everyone beware!
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1/15/05 Saturday Chicago Meetup--Reza's Restaurant (Clark Street)
by blondie in1/15/05 saturday chicago meetup?reza?s restaurant, 5255 n clark st (by wrigley field)
we are shooting for 5:30 pm giving us time to eat and talk and go to either the green mill or the jazz showcase afterwards.
parking: street parking possible, free lot (5238 n. clark st.)
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blondie,
do we have a clearer head count of all who are going to be able to make it for dinner at reza's yet?