Posts by DaCheech

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Questions on Adam & Eve?

by kls in

it has been a long time since i opened a bible but these questions keep coming up in my head so i thought i would ask our all knowing here.

according to the bible adam & eve ate the forbidden fruit and became embarrassed of their bodies so they covered up.

this makes no sense since they had been naked and where having sex so why were they embarrassed?

DaCheech

If God put 2 trees (knowledge tree and everlasting life tree) Why did he have to guard the

everlasting life tree when he kicked out Adam/Eve? He could have just destroyed it, and not wasted the cherubs time?

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Jehovah's Witnesses and... are my magazine's cover story

by morrisamb in

i have been invisable here of late as i have so many projects on the go.

my magazine q has taken off here in london, canada.

each month i will have an overall theme...october's is faith and we'll be dealing with several different belief systems.

DaCheech

Read quotes from Watchtower mags in: http://quotes.watchtower.ca/russell_grave.htm

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What made you "see the light"?

by hubert in

jw
friends

i realize many (or all) of the ex-j.w.

's in this forum have either gotten out of the org., faded, or in some way have come to the conclusion that the watchtower is not the "faithful and discreet slave", and is not the "true" religion that they claim to be.

i am curious to know..... "what made you see the light"?.

DaCheech

Do they think that kids go to assemblies for the talks? Girls!

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What made you "see the light"?

by hubert in

jw
friends

i realize many (or all) of the ex-j.w.

's in this forum have either gotten out of the org., faded, or in some way have come to the conclusion that the watchtower is not the "faithful and discreet slave", and is not the "true" religion that they claim to be.

i am curious to know..... "what made you see the light"?.

DaCheech

It was pronounced at the District convention, and confirmed in a WT approx 3-4 months after

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What made you "see the light"?

by hubert in

jw
friends

i realize many (or all) of the ex-j.w.

's in this forum have either gotten out of the org., faded, or in some way have come to the conclusion that the watchtower is not the "faithful and discreet slave", and is not the "true" religion that they claim to be.

i am curious to know..... "what made you see the light"?.

DaCheech

Many things about elders and their red tape in which imitates the political world!

But lately, It's been the inperfection theory (Adam was perfect, and as time goes on we are getting more imperfect)

Well, I tell my wife: If Adam/Eve sinned and Jehovah said to them they they will get sick and die now, why are

we getting:

1) birth defects (unloving of God), some are real serious such as conj. twins, spinodiffera, mongolism, etc

2) people being born with both sex organs (God does not want gay people, how we he accept these, when he created them this way!) real dilemma, huh?

3) Dinosours made to eat flesh

4) If god put two trees in Eden, when he expelled Adam/Eve why did he need to guard them (when he could have destroyed them)

5) People getting serious diseases even at 1 year of age (if point of imperfection true, God's curse would just get sick over time.... not right away)

6) as someone said: monkey's masturbating. Well they have sex in any way possible, even with relatives, and homosexual..... why would God create them this way!

7) (list could go on but I will finish here) inconsistencies with their persecution -vs- getting commendation from world complex (when good things written, JW's are highly reguarded, when bad things are written, the are persecuted for being God's people)

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C of C book

by zion sleeping in

after reading the c of c book twice!

i left it on the kitchen table for my wife(died hard dub).

and i said if you want to learn the inner working of the w.t read it sure hope she does

DaCheech

s there anything in this book on whether the GB travel and vacation like Donald Trump?

Ex: 1st class and 5 star resorts?

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I just finished Crisis of Conscience...

by Badger in

thanks to ray franz for writing it.

parts of the book have been talked about on the board before, but holy $#!+...seeing page upon page of evidence kept my jaw in a constant drop.... a few thoughts.... >franz seems to have little malice for the org, and it shows in the book.. >i looked at it with a very skeptical eye (as i do everything) and tried to see it from the perspective of a witness who sincerely believed.

i was still floored by the callousness of the comments of these people.. > control really does seem to be the watchword for these folks, and they've trained the rank and file well.

DaCheech

Is there anything in this book on whether the GB travel and vacation like Donald Trump?

Ex: 1st class and 5 star resorts?

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Does Belgium Have it Right About JWs?

by ezekiel3 in

us criticises religious .

discrimination in belgium

source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.

DaCheech

I have not read all the posts.... But I have a question? Was not Charles Manson leader of a religion?

Did the goverment interfere with his beliefs?

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How To Personally Defeat the Watchtower, Lurkers!

by metatron in

so, you wanna "leave the 'truth", huh?.

let's examine the two options:.

you dissassociate yourself - and what happens?

DaCheech

I guess you gotta be careful who you exchanged info (names) with. Some here could be double-agents!

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UPDATE: JUDGE'S OFFICIAL ORDER AND MORE

by Corvin in

for those of you just joining us, here are the links to the story as it unfolded.

minors shall have visitation with their mother, until further order of the court, as follows:

jw?s abuse my kids - elders do nothing to stop it

DaCheech

Go for it!