Yes, Yes and Yes!! I do think it is a deliberate way to break the r&f's spirit. I think the BG are a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths who walk all over average JW's. Its disgusting - but also sad to think that so many people allow another human to have that much power and control over them. Where do they get off telling people that they have a line of communication with god and nobody else does. And why do people believe that?
Bubbamar
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Arrogance, Anger, and the Watchtower
by czarofmischief indo any of you guys recall, from your dubbie days, the deliberate attempts to form a caste system within the org?
how every prophecy was applied to the "anointed" alone and not to us.
how freddie tried to make jesus the mediator only for the anointed's prayers?
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I going to picket my parents convention this weekend!
by Atilla inok, my parents have pissed me off so much with their denial and their refusal to even acknowledge my complaints against the borg.
they pretend everything is perfect at the kingdom hall and expect me to play nice to their dub friends so as to protect their own reputation.
this weekend in philadelphia, they are going to to their little convention and i have some evil thoughts.
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Bubbamar
I remember feeling excited when there was talk of "the apostates" being at the convention. I never did get to see any. Maybe you will save a few - or at least plant some seeds! Good luck and enjoy yourself!
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Watchtower Lies
by Unclepenn1 ina jw i have been debating with (who is df'd by the way) gave me the go ahead to send to him what i would consider times where the wt has lied or been totally dishonest with the membership, or just in general.
does anyone have any clear cut quotes from the wt that are obviously deceptive?
i already sent him a lot of info about 1874/1914, and also about some other stuff.
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Bubbamar
I found a statement written by "God's channel of communication" in the "You can live forever in paradise on earth" book, c.1982, page 154, par. 2... that actually says.....
quote " Also, the BIBLE said that all these things would happen upon the generation that was alive in 1914." end quote.
This is my favorite. This is from Hubert on a recent thread. I don't know how to copy the words and the link. Of course, the BIBLE does NOT say that!
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Did WTS have to pay back taxes after Swaggart ruling?
by Bubbamar inan audit discovered that taxes were not paid on these purchases, so the state board of equalization informed the company that it must "register as a seller" and pay back taxes ($118,294.54, plus $65,043.55 in interest).
i just read that swaggart had to pay back taxes.
did the wts have to pay back taxes prior to their decision to "give" the literature?
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Yes! Thanks Sunspot!
In other countries this does not apply.
How do they explain this??? Other countries don't need the preaching work to be "simplified?" Haha! Hypocrits.
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"Those days will be cut short " - question
by Sirona inmy jw friend (the only one who does keep in touch) is really considering "fading".. the trouble is that she was raised a jw and is finding it all really difficult, plus her father is a prominent jw.. she mentioned to me the scripture (matthew?
) that says that the last days would have to be cut short for the sake of the holy ones.
she says they always taught that this referred to the anointed and that they'd all die off if jehovah didn't cut short the days of the time of the end.. she says that if they ever change thoughts on this doctrine she would immediately leave.
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Bubbamar
Good point running man. Glad to hear it!
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In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?
by minimus injws say, "the apostates are miserable!!
".....do you feel miserable?
(i don't).
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Bubbamar
SOOOO much happier!!! I wasn't at first - for a while I was miserable, alone and scared. Just as they would have it. But no more! I have a great life!
My mom is a happy JW martyr. If you took away her misery she would cease to be happy.
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new world translation inaccuracies
by doogie inhey guys.. i know, it's a little early for this...but i started thinking about it last night and couldn't get past it.. i'm in the process of moving and last night i was packing up some books.
lo and behold...i come across a copy of the new world translation.
should i pack it?
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Bubbamar
Richie - Thanks for the link to that AWESOME post!!! I just wish I could get my printer to work!
BTY - what is the answer to the question regarding who translated the NWT and why they keep it a secret?
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"Those days will be cut short " - question
by Sirona inmy jw friend (the only one who does keep in touch) is really considering "fading".. the trouble is that she was raised a jw and is finding it all really difficult, plus her father is a prominent jw.. she mentioned to me the scripture (matthew?
) that says that the last days would have to be cut short for the sake of the holy ones.
she says they always taught that this referred to the anointed and that they'd all die off if jehovah didn't cut short the days of the time of the end.. she says that if they ever change thoughts on this doctrine she would immediately leave.
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Bubbamar
She says that if they EVER change thoughts on this doctrine she would immediately leave.
I think - just my opinion - you are chasing your tail with this question. If she hasn't seen enough already (1975, 1995, milawi/mexico, blinking lights, Swaggart tax evasion, UN membership, etc, etc.) I doubt if "one more thing will do it for her either." It's like a parent that lets the kid get away with murder and just keeps saying "If you do that one more time...." I dunno. But we know one thing for sure - if she sticks around long enough they will be forced to address it.
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Just got back from the YMCA
by Atilla ini went to the y last night just to relax and go swimming.
the y near my house is pretty clean and after 8 p.m., not very crowded.
i find it very relaxing to go work out, play basketball, go swimming and then sit in the sauna after a long shower.
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Bubbamar
I have a membership here!! I'm sure that's
forbiddencautioned about in the Watchtower. You are right -- it's great to be free!! Thanks for reminding me!Gang rape in the men's shower if probably your most immediate concern.
dolphman - you're kidding right?? Are you a homophobe? Do you think gay men are also rapists? Do you think you are that desireable? (I'm sure you are - but gang rape, c'mon - even queers have some impulse control!)
BTTT
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Did WTS have to pay back taxes after Swaggart ruling?
by Bubbamar inan audit discovered that taxes were not paid on these purchases, so the state board of equalization informed the company that it must "register as a seller" and pay back taxes ($118,294.54, plus $65,043.55 in interest).
i just read that swaggart had to pay back taxes.
did the wts have to pay back taxes prior to their decision to "give" the literature?
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An audit discovered that taxes were not paid on these purchases, so the State Board of Equalization informed the company that it must "register as a seller" and pay back taxes ($118,294.54, plus $65,043.55 in interest).
I just read that Swaggart had to pay back taxes. Did the WTS have to pay back taxes prior to their decision to "give" the literature? If not, why didn't they have to pay too?
Also - does anyone have the WT article handy where they lie about their reasons for the new policy? I'd like to print it.
Thanks