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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Yes, I quoted directly from the NYT.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  However, since it was a Bible printed before 1915, it was NOT printed by the Watchtower. The Watchtower started printing the ASV in 1944:
  
  *** dx30-85 Watch Tower Publications ***1944, American Standard Version: yb75 219; w60 599; jp 215, 256; w50 315; ta 275-283
  
  *** yb75 p. 219 Part 3—United States of America ***Brother Knorr had another basic thought in mind. That was the preserving of Jehovah’s name in all languages. There was a translation of the Bible that used the divine name in the Hebrew Scriptures. It was the American Standard Version. The Society purchased the use of plates to print this Bible, and the greatly appreciated Watch Tower edition became available to delighted conventioners at the United Announcers’ Theocratic Assembly of 1944.
  
  *** w60 10/1 p. 599 par. 3 New Bible Translation Completed, Released ***Later the Society paid for the privilege to use the plates of the American Standard Version Bible, which is a revision of the King James Version Bible of 1611. Copies of this American Revision the Watch Tower Society began producing in 1944, and has since printed 888,837 copies in two sizes.
  *** w50 9/15 p. 315 par. 8 New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures ***An excellent Bible translation of the twentieth century is the American Standard Version. Besides being a great improvement over the King James Version it has the remarkable and commendable feature of rendering God’s name “Jehovah” at the 6,823 places where it occurs in the Hebrew Scriptures. After long negotiations and by a financial arrangement the Watch Tower Society was able in 1944 to purchase the use of the plates of the complete American Standard Version of the Bible for printing this version on its presses with a specially prepared Appendix of Bible-study helps. On August 10, 1944, at Buffalo, New York, the key city of 17 simultaneous assemblies of Jehovah’s witnesses linked together by private telephone lines, the Society’s president delighted his vast audience by releasing the Watch Tower edition of the American Standard Version.
  
  
  
  
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Ttdtt, there is no such thing as "West Point Bible"... What they mean in that website is "the Bible that Eisenhower had at West Point", the military academy.
  
  All sources point to the same thing: The Bible in the picture is the one that Eisenhower used. It was an American Standard Version, a version used by Witnesses before the New World Translation because it contained "Jehovah" in the Old Testament.
  
  When you look at the following website, http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pibible.html, it says in the notes for the second inauguration of Eisenhower:
  
  12. New York Times, Jan. 22, 1957, p. 16. (Return to text)
  
  And the NYT, Jan 22, 1957, p.16 said:
  
  "The President's Bible, given him by his mother on his graduation from the United States Military at West Point, N.Y.,"
  
  So it IS the one shown in the picture.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. friends

  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  It's hard to see the "American Standard Version", but it's there.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  That was the Bible used.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  Words omitted from a Watchtower article

  by Doug Mason in

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  a short time ago i sought information regarding a quotation in the watchtower of april 1, 2010, which did not identify the exact source of the quotation from professor oskar skarsaune.

  my interest was heightened because words had been omitted from the source.. the wts provided a copy of the original 29-page article, which is in norwegian.. here is my very unofficial personal translation of the passage from professor skarsaune's article that the watchtower is quoting.

  firstly i provide the text as it appears in the watchtower magazine, highlighting where the text has been omitted.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Actually, Tim, the words

  "but was the result of a process in which many churches in all parts of the church were involved, and where the selection"

  Completely change the meaning of the quote from the WT's viewpoint. The WT wants it to seem like there was no "Catholic" or central church that decided upon the NT canon, but the reality is that there was. It was "the church" as a whole that decided the canon, an already existing entity.
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

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  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  I agree with Focus here. I have investigated Russell quite a bit and I am shocked at how much even respected JW historians like Penton dismiss the Miracle Wheat episode as not being too important. We might despise Rutherford, but that's only because Russell hid a lot of his dealings. Finally, EdenOne saw the reality of things.
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  Long time lurker, first time poster ...

  by LettMorrisSplaneit in

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  i finally had the guts to create a profile to be able to post.

  i've been lurking for a few months and have read all your experiences and comments dutifully.

  you have been a great help in my process of waking up from this cult posing as the one true religion.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Welcome! I am glad to see you and many others wake up!

  =)
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  Happy Pi Day

  by dothemath in

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  2. bible

  tomorrow is march 14 (3.14), so its known as pi day, to honour the all-important constant.. incidentally, the bible has been criticized by mathematicians because the scriptures give a very poor value of pi.. the scripture is based on 1kings 7: 23 and reads as follows:.

  "and he proceeded to make the molten sea ten cubits from its one brim to its other brim, circular all around; and its height was five cubits, and it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it".

  now that shape is actually mathematically impossible to construct, because if the diameter is 10 cubits, the circumference would have to be 31.4159 cubits.

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  One of the many, many reasons why it is, yes.

  Here's a lot more of them:

  http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/numeric.shtml