Thank you Joey, that was a very nice explanation!
I understood it now that I downloaded a planetarium software that can allow me the see the ecliptic.
Like you said, if it was only Saturn, 20 years would be a different position. Only Saturn and Jupiter, for the same position, you´re talking 7021 years (I did the math). Five planets... it´s pretty much impossible to have the same position!!
So yeah, I do agree that VAT 4956 is a much better confirmation (on its own) of the date.
The eclipse described in VAT 4956 has a very close match 20 years earlier. But, my work shows that it is not only ONE eclipse but dozens of them that are described in multiple tablets, and the combination of the precise details of the eclipses (total, partial, if it was seen in Babylon, if it set or rose eclipsed, what portion of the moon was eclipsed, what times the eclipse happened)... all those details combined ALSO give a "fingerprint" of precisely multiple dates that don´t fit the Watchtower narrative.
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Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.
as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.
https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.
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Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.
as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.
https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.
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Londo, with VAT 4956, the problem is that for me it´s hard to understand the motion of the planets since I have never really gone much into depth in that topic. Like, if you asked me to one day point at the planets in the sky I´d be clueless.
But lunar eclipses are things that I know... I have seen them, I know when to expect them, and I understand now the Saros cycles.
I can´t wait to actually finish the document in Spanish and then start translating. I am still missing LBAT 1421, adding bibliography, and doing some finishing touches.
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Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.
as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.
https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.
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This must be a huge work for you to do. Please read
Thank you for the suggestion. I have read it. In fact, you could say that this is "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" for dummies version. Lots and lots of pictures and graphs, about 90% of the information in that document is based on TGTR.
"The Gentile Times Reconsidered" x Jonsson.I just wanted to make it even easier to understand, and focused only on being able to read a lunar eclipse information graph.
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Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.
as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.
https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.
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ILoveTTATT2
I am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century BCE, Excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that Jerusalem fell in 587 B.C.E., and not 607 B.C.E. as the Watchtower states.
Currently it is in Spanish, but I intend to translate it to English later.
For those who speak Spanish, here it is:https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower
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Just woke up turn TV on to hear yet another nut case with a gun.
by Still Totally ADD infirst they said 20 dead with 100 injured.
now i just heard 50 dead and 200 injured.
whatever it is it just another nut case who was able to get a high power gun to kill people.
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I'm curious as to how (according to the news) he got 12 or more good sized weapons into a hotel without being noticed.
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Anyone have the book Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire Book by Raymond Philip Dougherty
by ILoveTTATT2 ini need the book .
nabonidus and belshazzar: a study of the closing events of the neo-babylonian empire.
book by raymond philip dougherty.
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NCC, don't worry. I can read it, with that is sufficient. Thanks for the offer though!
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Anyone have the book Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire Book by Raymond Philip Dougherty
by ILoveTTATT2 ini need the book .
nabonidus and belshazzar: a study of the closing events of the neo-babylonian empire.
book by raymond philip dougherty.
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Hi Scratchme, thank you! I can see it but I can't download it... could you help me with that?
NCC, could you send me the pdf?
Thanks!
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Anyone have the book Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire Book by Raymond Philip Dougherty
by ILoveTTATT2 ini need the book .
nabonidus and belshazzar: a study of the closing events of the neo-babylonian empire.
book by raymond philip dougherty.
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Hi,
I need the book
Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire
Book by Raymond Philip DoughertyFor an investigation I am doing. It's from 1929 so there shouldn't be any copyright issues I hope... Anyone have a PDF of this? I would really appreciate it. -
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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com
by ILoveTTATT2 inif you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.
so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?
- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?
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Paul Grundy's Life story:
http://verdadtj.com/atalaya/paul-grundy-experiencia.php
With this, I have 1/3 of all jwfacts articles translated to Spanish!
46 different articles...
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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com
by ILoveTTATT2 inif you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.
so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?
- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?
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Also:
Have there Always been Witnesses? (Siempre Ha Habido Testigos?)
http://verdadtj.com/atalaya/siempre-ha-habido-testigos.php