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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  Ttdtt, there is no such thing as "West Point Bible"... What they mean in that website is "the Bible that Eisenhower had at West Point", the military academy.
  
  All sources point to the same thing: The Bible in the picture is the one that Eisenhower used. It was an American Standard Version, a version used by Witnesses before the New World Translation because it contained "Jehovah" in the Old Testament.
  
  When you look at the following website, http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pibible.html, it says in the notes for the second inauguration of Eisenhower:
  
  12. New York Times, Jan. 22, 1957, p. 16. (Return to text)
  
  And the NYT, Jan 22, 1957, p.16 said:
  
  "The President's Bible, given him by his mother on his graduation from the United States Military at West Point, N.Y.,"
  
  So it IS the one shown in the picture.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. friends

  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  It's hard to see the "American Standard Version", but it's there.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  That was the Bible used.
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  Eisenhower used WT Bible when sworn into office

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  joel rosenburg was on tv a few minutes ago talking about eisenhower's background.

  he mentioned that his father left the religion after the end of the world did not happen in 1914 and that his mother continued.

  then he mentioned that when he was sworn into office, he had his hands on a bible published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  Words omitted from a Watchtower article

  by Doug Mason in

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  a short time ago i sought information regarding a quotation in the watchtower of april 1, 2010, which did not identify the exact source of the quotation from professor oskar skarsaune.

  my interest was heightened because words had been omitted from the source.. the wts provided a copy of the original 29-page article, which is in norwegian.. here is my very unofficial personal translation of the passage from professor skarsaune's article that the watchtower is quoting.

  firstly i provide the text as it appears in the watchtower magazine, highlighting where the text has been omitted.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Actually, Tim, the words

  "but was the result of a process in which many churches in all parts of the church were involved, and where the selection"

  Completely change the meaning of the quote from the WT's viewpoint. The WT wants it to seem like there was no "Catholic" or central church that decided upon the NT canon, but the reality is that there was. It was "the church" as a whole that decided the canon, an already existing entity.
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

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  2. friends

  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  I agree with Focus here. I have investigated Russell quite a bit and I am shocked at how much even respected JW historians like Penton dismiss the Miracle Wheat episode as not being too important. We might despise Rutherford, but that's only because Russell hid a lot of his dealings. Finally, EdenOne saw the reality of things.
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  Long time lurker, first time poster ...

  by LettMorrisSplaneit in

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  i finally had the guts to create a profile to be able to post.

  i've been lurking for a few months and have read all your experiences and comments dutifully.

  you have been a great help in my process of waking up from this cult posing as the one true religion.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Welcome! I am glad to see you and many others wake up!

  =)
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  Happy Pi Day

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tomorrow is march 14 (3.14), so its known as pi day, to honour the all-important constant.. incidentally, the bible has been criticized by mathematicians because the scriptures give a very poor value of pi.. the scripture is based on 1kings 7: 23 and reads as follows:.

  "and he proceeded to make the molten sea ten cubits from its one brim to its other brim, circular all around; and its height was five cubits, and it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it".

  now that shape is actually mathematically impossible to construct, because if the diameter is 10 cubits, the circumference would have to be 31.4159 cubits.

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  One of the many, many reasons why it is, yes.

  Here's a lot more of them:

  http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/numeric.shtml
  
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  Happy Pi Day

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tomorrow is march 14 (3.14), so its known as pi day, to honour the all-important constant.. incidentally, the bible has been criticized by mathematicians because the scriptures give a very poor value of pi.. the scripture is based on 1kings 7: 23 and reads as follows:.

  "and he proceeded to make the molten sea ten cubits from its one brim to its other brim, circular all around; and its height was five cubits, and it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it".

  now that shape is actually mathematically impossible to construct, because if the diameter is 10 cubits, the circumference would have to be 31.4159 cubits.

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  The "inner diameter" would have to be ~9.55 cubits so that the rope aound it would be 30 cubits. Kind of an odd measurement...

  This blog explains why the apologist explanations are wrong:

  http://evolutionblog.blogspot.mx/2006/01/bible-implies-that-pi-is-three-deal.html?m=1
  
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  Almost three months since Crisis of Conscience Cease and Desist

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am very interested in getting crisis of conscience being fully available as soon as possible.

  march 12th will mark exactly three months since the cease-and-desist letter was written.. i understand that things are slow and that deborah may be sick, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the status.

  i have been asked twice already where the book can be obtained in spanish and i have told people that the book is not available.. there are ways to make ebooks extremely hard to share.

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  Just FYI,

  My bad. I had not written an email to Deborah, I thought I had. Now I have, and will await for her response.