I'd start with Galatians, just six chapters long, key verse is 2:16 we are justified by faith in Jesus, not by observing the law, and as a result (3;26)we are ALL sons of God, somewhat at odds with JW theology. Also Ephesians - the "other sheep" are clearly Gentiles
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Which book of the Bible creates the highest number of awakenings?
by NeverKnew inso, it has been agreed that i will be reading the bible with my jw friends.
straight bible no wt.. we tried to start with matthew and move through the new testament.
i insisted on using the esvs i purchased from amazon for $.49 a piece so we could write in them.
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UK Xmas meal Portsmouth
by cantleave inthe portsmouth / southampton xmas meal has been booked.
1st december at the hungry horse, the farmhouse portsmouth burrfields road, portsmouth po3 5hh (same as last year).
arrive anytime after midday.
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snapdragon4
Hi Cantleave Well done for organising this, count me in. Looking forward to meeting other members of your family too. Best wishes Snapdragon4
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WTS publication found by Catholics
by SnowQueen ini was looking to see if i could find the reasoning book online when i came across this highly amusing thread on a catholic forum in 09:.
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=354498.
they're so excited to have found the book - "now we know a lot better about what the jw is going to say to us, and so we can be better prepared to respond!".
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snapdragon4
Hi SnowQueen
The "Reasoning book" is now available on the official jw.org website, go to publications, online library, books - amazing it is there given so much of it has been superceded by "new light".
Best wishes
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Has anyone tried tactics from"Captives of a Concept"?
by Coffee House Girl injust read don cameron's book...which was very en-light-ening (sorry for the "new light" pun)....and i agree with many of cameron's points about how to reason with a jw but i am curious..... have any of you out there in jwn land ever tried to have a witness come to your door, pretend to have a bible study & get the jw in a "teacher" setting where they have to research for you the history of jw's in the time of 1919????.
were you successful?
did it not work out?.
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Have your JW Relatives Explained about Generation/Overlap Change to You ?
by flipper inafter reading on the way out's thread about his mom explaining the generation overlap to him it kicked this idea into my head to make this thread .
i thought it would be helpful to see if anybody here has had jw relatives or friends try to explain this " generation overlap " theory to you as a faded or inactive witness and what happened in the conversations.
so please feel free to post your experiences.
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The problem with asking your JW relatives to explain the "generation" change TO YOU is that they see the agenda, probably refuse and it may become confrontational.
Next time they mention to you they have been out in field service, how about asking how they would explain the change to an interested householder! You're off the hook, and it's difficult to accuse a householder of apostasy!
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Apostanoodle London Wed 4th November 2009
by sweet pea ini'm coming back to the uk and will be in town for the 4th november (unfortunately besty and the podlets won't be coming with me) but i would love to meet up with y'all.
especially as i missed the last one.
so, who's up for wagamama's, covent garden, on wednesday 4th november 2009.
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Sounds good to me too, love to Besty and the podlets.
Be good to see Jookbeard again, 20 years on.
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Quickfire Questions to ask JW's at your door?
by ThomasCovenant inoccassionally (very) i have met jw's that don't know me and i would like to ask them something to make them think.. any suggestions for quick, simple, thought provoking questions to ask jw's that you may meet?.
i seem to remember 'v' did a youtube question along the lines of,.
''how can you belong to a religion that allows blood fractions to be transfused?''.
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With many JWs debating scripture can be counter productive but I have found questions such as the following challenge their world view.
"I appreciate your sincerity but tell me, if your beliefs were wrong, would you want to know?"
"If Jehovah's Witnesses didn't exist would it be possible to be a Christian and be saved?"
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IS THERE ANYONE FROM HAMPSHIRE OR SURREY (ENGLAND) ON THIS FORUM
by BloominMarvellous inhi guys.
me and my friend would really like to meet up with some of you who are in the hampshire or surrey area, and possibly west sussex.
(england).
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snapdragon4
Hi Blooming
I live in Hampshire.
I left 5 years ago, most of my family are still in. I understand all the issues, pm me if you and your friend would like to talk
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Do you believe in MIRACLES?
by nicolaou ini'll be honest and admit that i did.
the 'moses' miracles, solar miracles, jesus miracles - everything.
so no belief bashing from me on this one, i promise.. all the same, how do you reconcile belief in miracles with that little voice in your head that says "hmmmmm?
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Fascinating question!
I have a Christian friend who is a medical doctor. Some while ago we had a discussion as to whether God heals people today. She assured me He did as she had had personal experience of such healings following prayer. I had no such experience. And a legacy belief I have carried from my JW upbringing is that this sort of thing ceased in the first century.
My doctor friend and I have a mutual friend at church who is suffering from cancer and before Christmas was given only months to live. Many at church prayed for a healing for her. Two weeks ago she returned to hospital for the results of further tests. She asked the doctor treating her if she'd had a miracle as her friends had been praying for her. The doctor replied that .......the tumours had disappeared!
The human reaction to miracles is disbelief, scepticism. Acts chapter 12 relates that Peter was in prison and the church was earnestly praying for him. Miraculously Peter escaped and went to the house where people were praying for him. He knocked on the door, a servant girl named Ronda recognised his voice and excitedly announced to everyone Peter was at the door. "You're out of your mind" they told her. And these were the people praying for his release! But Peter kept knocking and when they opened the door and saw him they were astonished - as you would be!
I leave you to decide whether my friend's healing is a miracle. What I can do is assure you that I'm not out of my mind!
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Hi, I'm new
by Diva inhi, this is my first post but ive been lurking around this discussion board for some time now.
my husband (the borg) occasionally posts and i had the pleasure of meeting some great people at the apostofest in covent garden, london last year arranged by bestie and sweetpea , hi to you both and hi to freetothink, mr majestic and everyone that was there hope youre all ok.. my story in a nutshell: raised a jw from birth, my whole family, expect one brother and sister (disfellowshipped) are still jws - basically i was raised in a family who were considered one of the pillars of the congregation, we all pioneered and did the whole witness thing, in fact one of my sisters is a missionary.
my whole jw world crumbled when i learnt about the jw/un connection and from that moment on there was no turning back.
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Hi Freetosee
Log on to the UN website, search Watchtower, and lo and behold it's true!!
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