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because they are brainwashed into thinking that "distorting the truth" is ok in circumstance involved in defending their faith-theocratic warfare.
they constantly lie to themselves about what kind of person they really are and deny themselves life's pleasures-hence the "double life syndrome" lie to friends at school, lie to elders, lie to people in the cong.
OC,
You hit it right on the head. Could you imagine what a social impact the WT could have if they were chairing a political party? It would be the greatest "spin" and "double talk" in the history of the USA.
It would make Bill Clinton's "it depends on what the meaning of is, is! " pale to anything they wanted to manipulate.
HappyDad
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dear cg.
in the garden i was working at most of the day, unfortunately there were not many purple flowers which specifically requested, anyway, i hope these iris do the trick for you instead, with my compliments, and today, i hope you are feeling somewhat better than last night, before you say anything, you're more than welcome!
Celtic,
You sure have a knack for photography..........the pictures are beautiful!
HappyDad
are you still "in"?
have you altogether stopped attending meetings?
for how long have you been "out"?
My last meeting was memorial 2003..........before that it was memorial 2002.........before that about a half dozen meetings in 2001 and 2002.
But my fade began a few years before. (no more guilt)
HappyDad
i haven't posted as much here as i've wanted these past few weeks, but i've spent most of my time lurking here, or in chat.
for the last few 2 months roughly, every meeting i attended became extremely painful to endure, such that i would come up with excuses to miss as many as possible.
but there are 2 events that really gave me a swift kick to wake me up and realize that things had to change.
Nocturne,
This decission you made isn't the end of all things in your life. It is the beginning of a brand new life. Take small steps until you are able to run.
Once the mind is clear, all kinds of good things happen.
If you still believe in God without the WT then ask Him for help. His grace is unbelievable.
HappyDad
In a couple of weeks I'm going to be eating a homeade German Chocolate Cake made by the hands of someone I met on this board. Can't wait 'til the visit. The cake is secondary.
Homemade.......wow!
HappyDad
Did I hear someone say oxtail soup? Ohhhhhhhh.....yes yes yes! Haven't had it for sooooooooo long.
Delicious!
HappyDad
my name is michelle jackson (hamlin) and i grew up in paducah, ky and murray, ky. i also lived in baton rouge, la and some other places.
now i live in knoxville, tn.
i was raised a jw, third generation.
Hi Michelle,
Welcome to the board. You will find a lot of good people and real friends here. More than one ever had at a KH. Sorry for the things you are going through but you will find comfort here.
I'm also glad you know the "real" truth now. That truth will never let you down but make you stronger.
HappyDad
i keep getting these forwards from certain ones who i knew in the org.
they know i have left because i was "discouraged".
they are keeping their distance by not writing to me anything personal, but keep sending these "encouraging" forwards in hopes that i'll be re-awakened, dust off the book bag and head on back to the old kh.
ColdRedRain
Now that is poetry more to my liking.
HappyDad
i keep getting these forwards from certain ones who i knew in the org.
they know i have left because i was "discouraged".
they are keeping their distance by not writing to me anything personal, but keep sending these "encouraging" forwards in hopes that i'll be re-awakened, dust off the book bag and head on back to the old kh.
Hey sista,
Now I don't have anything against poetry.......good poetry from the masters.......
This one you forward from someone you know iisn't bad either...........but I never could understand why so many JW's think they have this talent for writing. I have known mamy who would say........"Oh.....you must read my latest poem.......here read it now."
Just check out the profiles on JW's and see how many say under HOBBIES: writing poetry
geeeeeeeeeeessssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!
HappyDad
i guess i'm asking in more of a business aspect?
or in any kind of dealings with them.....for example, because of their morals honesty is "supposed" to be practiced.
would you hire one because of this?
I would have to say that "trust" depends on the individual JW......whoever he or she may be. My experiences in losing trust in them is:
A cousin of mine who was a JW long before me and who I admired as a person made it real big in the vacuum cleaner business. Another "brother" who was in the concrete business made him a proposition to repair his porch steps in trade for a new Kirby complete with all attachments. Now in the 1970's this package would have sold for something like $600 or more. The "brother"got the vacuum but my cousin never saw the steps repaired.
In 1986 my father-in-law died and one of my fellow elders talked my mother-in-law into selling him a lot of good power tools and hydraulic tools along with some antique railroad items. I was there when he told my MIL how much he thought these items were worth and I told her that this was a good deal for her. Guess what? She only saw $40.00 an was supposed to get several hundred. My two meally mouth brothers-in-law didn't want to confront this elder.......wanted to just let it go.........NOT ME! I have a reputation of sticking up for those I care for.......and I let my fellow elder have it verbally. I told him in not too kind of a way that he was no different than a thief stealing this stuff. He tried to "reason" his way out by saying that after thinking about it, he thought he offered too much. It seems he can conveniently forget about "letting your yes mean yes" This is the same elder that I threw out of my house 8 years ago.
In 1984 when all the steel mills were closing around Pittsburgh and I lost my job, I started my own business. 3 years later I was able to get a real good job with a major company and turned my business along with the equipment for free to a young struggling to make a living "brother". I had him working with me for a few months before this so he knew how to do the business. What did he do? In less than a month I got a call from a customer about him just walking off and not finishing the job. This was quite a contract and I told the person that so and so is now the contractor that I had given it up. When I questioned the "brother" about it he was hem hawing like crazy and said he doesn't really want to do this kind of work. The A...Hole would rather be back on assistance! I asked hime to return the equipment since he didn't want to do this work. The jerk said he left everything at the job, that he was too overwhelmed to get it..........Guess what? I never saw that equipment again.
Would I have a JW work for me? NO. Would I trust a JW? See my first sentence. I guess I will always forgive and forget (at least try) even now that I am no longer an elder or JW but a Christian. A Christian who is happy and at peace.
HappyDad
