i don't know the date but it must be in the jan issues of the awake magazine between 1999-2004. it mentioned the subject of automobiles and it had a photo of a 16 cylendar cadillac and the man next to is no other than judge rutherford himself.
has anyone seen that article?
hope for your replies.
Homesoulwt,
There is a picture of the Judge and his wheels at this website.
http://www.geocities.com/paulblizard/thejudge.html
Since I stopped reading the mags about 1999 I don't remember any pics or admittance of the above. I"m not doubting that you saw the pic, but I wonder about the society actually writing about and showing this pimple on their arse. I think they are too embarassed about the Judge's behavior.....except that which they whitewash to their benefit.
HappyDad
after coming home to read what has happened today on this board, i would just like to say that no matter what differences anyone has ever had with ray franz, i, for one appreciate what he has done for me.
ray has helped more people to look at their spirituality over the last 2 decades.
he is not perfect, but he has been a voice of reason and a man of integrity.
i had to listen to jw craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying.
recently, i was reading paul and pat blizard's website and came across "101 strange beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses".
granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of bud light.... i mean new light!
Atlantis,
(Ask JWD and ye shall recieve the answer) Thank you so much for the reference. Yep........that's it!
Holy $hite.............they could take the most harmless thing and make you think that you are/were demon possessed.
HappyDad
i had to listen to jw craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying.
recently, i was reading paul and pat blizard's website and came across "101 strange beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses".
granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of bud light.... i mean new light!
Can someone help me out here.
I had to listen to JW craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying. Recently, I was reading Paul and Pat Blizard's website and came across "101 Strange Beliefs and Practices of Jehovah's Witnesses". Granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of Bud Light.... I mean New Light! But when I came to number 63. You cannot wear jade jewelry, something in my memory bank became active and I remembered my mother talking about that over 40 years ago.
Problem is......I don't remember why this was a belief and can't find any reference anywhere.
I'm sure someone else has heard this among many of the other crazy beliefs. I'll be patiently waiting for an answer.
Thanks fellow JWDers.
HappyDad
so for me it's been 9 months since mr.panda died.
people have said it would "get easier" "fade" etc.
for me none of this has occurred.
One of my biggest decisions still have to be made. Hubby was cremated and requested that I spread his ashes out
It took three years but close to our wedding anniversary in Oct. 1999, (Joyce died in April, 1996) I drove to my late wife's favorite place in the world and scattered her ashes. The location is Shawnee Lake in Shawnee State Park near Bedford, PA.
We spent many, many weekends there in our pop-up camper in the early 1980"s when our daughter was little. When my daughter was visiting me from Florida last week, it was the first time she wasn't able to take the drive there. She always goes there when in PA. In a way, it's like visiting the grave of a loved one.
HappyDad
Excellent....Excellent....Excellent work +.
I remember all too well the Jonestown massacre. At that time I had to face the wrath of my workmates. Somewhere in my heart, I knew we JW's resembled some of that behavior.
HappyDad
thank you, danny, for that information on the sale of brooklyn properties.
i commented on dr. brenda upton's lawsuit against the society.
below is further pertinent information:.
Dr. (Sister) Upton said...................
“We don’t have a spiritual conflict,” said Upton, who has moved with her husband to Washington State.
“Our problem all along has been medical-legal. We are still active Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
I'd have this to say to Dr. Upton.........
My dear Dr. Upton. See what I have highlighted in yellow? Well my dear Dr. Upton, you committed a serious no-no against your "mother". You violated what they always told you not to. You sued them! They won't come right out and say....."how dare you?", but from now on, you will be watched through a magnifying glass and they will jump for joy once they catch you saying or doing the least thing that offends someone. If you haven't already been.....because of your lawsuit........you will eventually be accused of causing divisions or be viewed as bad association.
Hey Doc,
We can't wait until you start posting here on JWD.
HappyDad
hey all,.
there are a few "what damage did the watchtower do to you?
"-type threads floating about, and it's easy to get sort of down over it all.
My daughter drove 1200 miles from Florida to visit me this week. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooo happy not only to see her, but she left the TROOF on her own. At the time, she was afraid to tell me and I was afraid to tell her that neither one of us considered ourselves to be nor ever wanted again to be a JW. See........there are happy endings. That's why I call myself HappyDad.
I'll give you another reason to celebrate.........OK?
Tonight.......I'm going to hit the POWERBALL LOTTERY for millions and everyone who responds to your thread by 10:58 PM tonight...........I will send each one a check for a thousand bucks. Yeah......I know it sounds cheap.
HappyDad
i have a pamphlet somewhere in this apartment that i cant seem to find, it deals with the nwt not consistenly rendering the logos, ho-theos, and theos.
they translate these words inconsistently as lord,jehovah,jesus, etc etc etc.. .
what i need to know are scriptures where these words arent rendered consistently.
Dave,
Just a few weeks ago a lady at the church I attend wanted this exact same info because her JW cousin was always preaching the "truuf" to her and she wanted ammunition to preach back. If you need more information, just Google these three words together.....JENOVAH'S WITNESSES TRINITY........and you will find a ton of it.
Here is just some of the info I got...............
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/jw-trin.html
http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=696
The following might help too. (copied from a web site)
Effective Verses to Show that Jesus IS Jehovah
NT authors frequently used OT passages that referred to Jehovah in reference to the Son.
· Isaiah 6:1 with John 12:37-41.
· Psalm 102:25-27 with Hebrews 1:10 (also: Isa. 8:12-13 with 1 Peter 3:14-15; Isa. 45:23 with Phil. 2:10; Joel 2:32 with Rom. 10:13).
John 1:1
John 1:1a
indicates that the Word was eternal: en arche en ho logos, "In [the] beginning was the Word. . . ." The Greek verb en, "was" is an imperfect tense, which indicates that the Word was always existing (cf. Phil. 2:6: hosen morphe theou huparchon, lit.,"[Christ Jesus] who in nature God subsisting").At John 1:1b (lit., "the Word was withthe God"), the eternal Word is said to be distinct (pros, "with") from His Father. Then, at John 1:1c, John literally writes: "God was the Word" (theos en ho logos). Note that the Apostle John places theos ("God") in the *emphatic position* (i.e., at the beginning of the clause) and theos is anarthrous (i.e., without the article ["the"]).
Thus, John clearly indicates here that (a) the eternal Word was "God" in the fullest sense (hence, he places theos ["God"] in emphatic position) and (b) John purposely presents theos as anarthrous, that is, he does not include the article ("the") before theos as in John 1:1b (speaking of the Father). Hence, theos is *qualitative* pointing to the Word's nature as fully God, not His identity. Qualitative nouns refer to description, not identification (cf. John 1:14; 4:24; 1 John 1:5). For if John had written: "The God was the Word" (ho theos en ho logos) he would have then indicated that the Word was the same God (same Person or identity) as "God" in John 1:1b--the Father!
Thus, John precludes an indefinite rendering ("a god" as in the NWT) by places theos in the empathic position and safeguards against modalism (Oneness theology) that asserts Jesus is the Father.
In conclusion: John 1:1 teaches that (a) the Word is eternal (1:1a: "In [the] beginning was [en] the Word), (b) the Word is eternally distinct from the Father (1:1b: the Word was with [pros] God), and (c) as to the Word's essential nature, He is God in the fullest sense (1:1c: lit., "God [theos] was the Word").
For more details on John 1:1 and an analysis of the Watchtower's indefinite rendering of theos in John 1:1c ("a god" NWT), see John 1:1 .
Jesus is called "The God" (o qeoj, ho theos):
John 20:28
Thomas said to Jesus (direct address): ho kurios mou kai ho theos mou, lit. "the Lord of me and the God of me" (see the WT’s own Greek interlinear called: TheKingdom Interlinear Translation).Titus 2:13:
"The great God and Savior": tou megalou theou kai soteros hemon Christou Iesou, lit. "the great God and Savior of us Christ Jesus." Note: in 2 Peter 1:1 is the same grammatical construction (i.e., article-noun-kai-noun): tou theou hemon kai soteros Iesou Christou, lit. "the God of us and Savior Jesus Christ (cf. 2 Peter 1:11; 2:20; 3:2, 18; 2 Thess. 1:12; see Gk.).Hebrews 1:8:"But of the Son He [the Father] says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER. . . ." (ho thronos sou ho theos, lit."the throne of you the God").
Jesus’ Absolute claim to BE
the "I Am" (egw eimi, ego eimi):
These would be Mark 6:50; John 8:24; 8:28; 8:58; 13:19 (cf.Isa. 43:10; LXX); 18:5; 18:6; and 18:8.
*Why is it important to know and teach that Jesus IS God?: Besides that of John 4:24; 17:3 and 1 John 2:23, Jesus declares in John 8:24:
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AmHe [ego eimi], you will die in your sins [note: "He" is not in the Gk.].
*See also: John 1:18; Rom. 9:5; Phil. 2:6-11; Col. 2:9 (theotetos); Heb. 1:3; 1 John 5:20; Rev. 5:13-14[The Trinity: One God revealed in three distinctcoequal, coeternal, coexistent Persons].
Good luck,
HappyDad
so for me it's been 9 months since mr.panda died.
people have said it would "get easier" "fade" etc.
for me none of this has occurred.
Panda,
I understand what you feel! I'm a widower and it is 11 years this week....April 27th.....since my wife died. She was only 46 when she died.
As time passes the pain of loss subsides but the memories are always there. And each year around this time, it still hurts to know that she is gone.
My daughter is here visiting me from Florida this week and we have shed a few tears together talking about how much we miss her mom.
I've fallen in love with someone since (it didn't work out) and I've talked to other widows and widowers who have remarried and they all say that even with a new spouse, you still remember and love the first one. It just seems like a common fact. You never shut out the memory of someone you shared your life with.
I wish you well and hope you can cope. Cherish the memories!
HappyDad
