Posts by Axelspeed

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Does anytone 'wince' when they hear people talking about God/Jesus etc?

by PaulJ in

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i went to a born-again christian church wedding a couple of weeks ago.

in so many ways it was like a kingdum hall.... and the person conducting the wedding was jesus this jesus that..... i just want to roll my eyes.. i think its because i been preached 'at' so much in my life as a dub i dont want to hear it anymore.

maybe im getting my head round the idea that beliefs and worship are best kept to yourself..... anyone else feel like this?

Axelspeed

Yes I do. And I cringe and look for a way to get away before I say something too off the cuff. I do for my own reasons believe in some form of a higher power, though I'm not sure most religions understand, or are willing to admit to, perhaps an alternate view of the true nature of such a being.

If I ever have dealings with a "religion" in the future, it will be for social reasons only. I will make my own conclusions and decisions about my relationship with and how I view this "higher power", and live with the consequences of it. Anything short of this higher power communicating from a burning bush to me personally is a waste of time.

JWs have completely ruined god-talk/organized religion for me for probably the balance of my lifetime. Even if Christianity is the way, the JW brand of it has turned me off.

I think that on some levels it could be argued that JW theology is actually anti-Christian.

Axelspeed

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ABC Interview with Bryan is now online...

by Bryan in

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all 11 minutes of it.. abc interview.

also, i realize those of you using firefox cannot scroll the webpages.

i know what the problem is, but am looking at other ways to fix it, because i like the way it works on internet explorer.. thanks,.

Axelspeed

Great interview! Axelspeed

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Asembly drama

by lamb_neo in

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those of you who have been to this year district conventions know that during the drama timothy's friend ionatan was telling him about their plans to go and study in athen.

i keep wondering how watchtower dares to say such lies.

where did they find this in the bible?

Axelspeed

I went to see the education angle and you are right, it was a buch of fiction wrapped around a couple of bible characters. Just pulled a story right out of the as$. And the JW lingo was incredibly ridiculous. It's hard to believe so many really swallowed that stuff.

Axelspeed

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Help in Disappearing!!!!!

by Coqui in

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my family and i have been away from the meetings for about three years but we still are watched carefully and get the occasional "we miss you" visit.

we will be moving out of state 1,500 miles away.

in todays internet age with access to so much info, phone #'s and adresses is it really impossible to truly escape?

Axelspeed

Once you move that far (1500 mi) you should be fairly safe, provided you dont make contact with JW in your new location. That is pretty far, for even the most persistant of elders.

Contrary to a lot of opinion, most elders are too busy with there own life or with the JWs who do show up to put forth the effort for anybody not in the territory, much less out of state. The rest are much too lazy. And I know of no elder who would go searching on the internet for any individual jw. Dont worry...you should be ok. Just try not to make contact with the locals in the new area.

Axelspeed

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2005 "Godly Obedience" District Convention Report

by CyrusThePersian in

i don't post much and this is the first thread i've ever started so please bear with me.

i wanted to give my obsevations on the 2005 "godly obedience" district convention.if the things i say are redundant, i apologize.

anyways, i was coerced into going by my daughter.

Axelspeed

i agree with the points already made, but here are my notes anyway.

1. trying to move away from 1914 as fast as possible

2. put faith in the resurrection because you will probably die on this side of the big A. sorry bout that old-timers.

3. give the FDS unquestioning (read blind) obedience

4. college is bad...come to bethel (the bethel meeting this year is for all under 35 and single, not just 19-35...my take is that they are trying to get them wrapped up early. This was also evidenced by some very very young baptisms)

Axelspeed

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Without the Internet. Would you still have been a active believing dub??

by Samuel Thorsen in

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perhaps i would.. struggeling with doubts of course, but going to the meetings and turning in 2 or 3 hours on my report every month like i used to.... what about you guys?

Axelspeed

I was already on the way out...it just wasn't doing it for me anymore. The year text for that year was about the yoke being light, something i knew just wasn't happening for me. Ironically an elder at the time mentioned COC and how he read it before becoming a witness (at the time he was stronger than ever, tho i think he will eventually come around once he sees completely the that what he read was truth...he's already stepped aside as elder) I believe that the internet is hurting them badly tho...more than they even realize yet. Without major changes, the glory days of the WTS are over. Axelspeed

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Jesus the son of God

by kingdoman in

i believe in jesus christ the son of god conceived of the virgin mary and who is one and the same as the father and the holy spirit, and through him all things where created.

i believe that he was crucified as a perfect sacrifice for our sins and on the third day rose from the dead and later ascended in heaven.

it is through jesus christ that we enter the kingdom of heaven and there is no lack of space in heaven.

Axelspeed

In my now post-jw life, I try to live, let live and not be too dogmatic about much. But my tolerance for religion in general is taking a beating....fueled in large part by the jw-like way a lot of people try and shove their beliefs on others.

Most of us have "been there, done that, and bought the tshirt." Whether u realize it or not, that brand of dogmatism and the tone you present it with is a real turn-off for many here.

I never thought I would say this, but "organized religion" is starting to make me sick.

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Hi yall dont google :)

by IP_SEC in

ok i got an email about the google thing.. .

the post about google in the june km is unverified but it in essence was .

dont use search engines to find our sites because they will take you to apostate sites.. i didnt copy the post in to this message because when i copied it into my thread about pms, the whole thread became inaccessable.. ipsec

Axelspeed

This is interesting...I wonder whose brilliant idea this was.

Axelspeed

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Leaving on your own terms!!!!!

by researcher in

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how about leaving on your own terms!!!!

you go to the sunday meeting or theo school and service meeting... and when there is an opportunity to comment.. you raise your hand.. and the diligent brother [servant wanna a be] brings over the microphone and you say.. " i just wanted to make it clear that i "...." no longer want to be identified as one of jehovah's witnesses's connected with the watchtower tower society, and then you get up, click your heels, give everyone a farewell salute..... and leave the building singing some neil young tune...... :) has anyone done that?

should we start doing that?

Axelspeed

I think I may be close to that point myself. Sometimes you just need to cut the strings.

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Goodbye everyone

by holly in

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its time to leave.

i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.

thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.

Axelspeed

Experience is not always the best or most preferred teacher...but it is many times the most effective. Sometimes you just have to see it for yourself.

Axelspeed