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  Brand New Blood Card

  by PoppyR in

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  hubby has just come back from the service meeting where they have been handed out brand new style blood cards, now called 'advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment' .

  it's quite a bit different.

  and has the line on it about giving permission to the hospital liason committee to see your notes and medical records.. very scary stuff i think, and i certainly wont be filling one in.. i'm really short of time tonight, but will scan it in, along with the notes that go with it and try and post it some time over the next day or so if someone else doesn't beat me to it!.

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  Axelspeed

  If this is true that the request is that they can view a patient's notes and medical records, and then that photocopies be made and given to those that sign, I would be very interested in the rate of compliance.

  Obviously, there is a lot of delusion at work here.

  Delusion and arrogance on the part of the WT in even making this request.

  Delusion on the part of those who sign that their medical record will not get out...and into the gossip mill. (How far can they go into your records? Will they find out about those depression meds, those erectile dysfuntion meds, treatment for something that you could be df'd for...take your pick)

  Delusion on the part of the elders involved, that they won't eventually be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.

  I really do not understand the reasoning behind this, other than to say that perhaps there are competing forces at work in WT-land, some of who are attempting to exert more of an influence.

  For those who sign without question, I would have one message: Stay. There is obviously a need you have, deeper than even this issue, that is being met.

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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  Axelspeed

  oh lord...it's the legal equivalent of AWAKE!

  
  

  
  LOL....interesting is my thought exactly though.

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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Axelspeed

  Many are on the edge anyway. The straw indeed.

  I my last post I mentioned that at this point at least that R&F would not be affected. I do have to agree though that many are on the edge. I know of a few still in who are tracking this issue to see where the WT goes with it next, now that they see or have been brought to see that the WT has been seemingly making subtle moves away from the doctrine. It could indeed be the straw for those who are thinking.

  Axel
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  I have a question about the blood video

  by blindersoff in

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  2. friends

  during the week of jan 30 at the service meeting, the society's video "a video that highlights an important medical trend" will be discussed using the 12 questions listed below.

  does any one know if any of the information in this particular video is mis-quoted or mis-represented?

  notice that none of these questions involve scriptures - only medical viewpoints.

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  Axelspeed

  I would hold on to that KM....and that video.

  Axel
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Axelspeed

  Well, one thing that may very well happen with this is a hunkering down with a very re-newed emphasis on their position as they see it biblically, even if it is flawed. Many are correct in saying that this will have very little effect on the R&F right now. It will only be seen as lies and persecution, and very few have the initiative to even read through anything that has a semblence of technical terms. That's why most don't understand or seek to understand the current policy.

  HLC elders are a bit of a different story though, as there skin could be placed very quickly on the front lines, and many pride themselves on there medical knowledge, based on the script they get from Brooklyn. They could be in trouble if they have been using pressure tactics to coerce those in need of treatment.

  The only way the R&F would take notice at this stage are pics of someone in charge of policy clutching a blood bag...or some major and blatant hypocrisy.

  This is a major start though for those who are out, see the issues, and are willing to seek payback.

  Axel
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Axelspeed

  Eventually, one of these brave or starving souls will take up this torch and find out where the rabbit hole goes.

  There is no mistake that this is big news!

  I can't help but wonder though that another shoe has yet to drop surrounding the blood issue. We just havn't found it yet.

  Axel
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  Question re BIG NEWS and HLC members

  by yesidid in

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  would anyone have an educated guess re any liability of hlc members who promoted and quoted from the "blood" booklet in question.. .

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  Axelspeed

  You are correct, interpretation of scripture is protected....and if they had left it at that it would probably be a much better position for them. But they didn't.
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  Question re BIG NEWS and HLC members

  by yesidid in

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  would anyone have an educated guess re any liability of hlc members who promoted and quoted from the "blood" booklet in question.. .

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  Axelspeed

  The very title given them by the WT as representatives...the HLC (Hospital Liason Committee)...would cause me to start thinking up an escape plan.

  Axel
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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  Axelspeed

  How did they not see this coming?

  They have used the all powerful freedom of religion stance.

  Yes, you can push religious quackery and people are free to believe religious quackery in all its many forms....just make sure you don't lie about or misrepresent your findings. This may take a while to play out, but once the plantiff lawyers start picking up the scent....well...

  Once the WT got bold enough and felt invincible enough to start playing doctor, they put themselves on slippery ground.

  Axelspeed
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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  Axelspeed

  The information race is on!!

  I believe they will have to respond in some way to this. The potential for damage is waayy too great if this gets traction...it has the potential to spiral completely out of control if a lid is not found fast.

  Axel