Posts by Axelspeed

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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets
by VM44 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?

the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.

for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
Axelspeed

I have no hard evidence as of yet...but I have an inkling the discarding of this doctrine is closer than we think, in fact it may already be happening.
Axelspeed
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Entire JW family going to college! (even the parents!)
by TresHappy in
1. jw
2. friends
a family affair: parents, daughter seek college education together .

the atlanta journal-constitution .

shavonne richardson, 21, never thought she'd be starting her freshman year of college with her parents.. .
Axelspeed

great story!
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WTS Emergency Meeting
by doinmypart in
1. jw
2. friends
the disaster relief committee at patterson organized 3 meetings this past memorial day, monday september 5, 2005. the meetings were held in lake charles, louisiana; bossier city, louisiana; and ball, louisiana.

over 1,200 elders were in attendance from louisiana, missouri, arkansas, and texas.

i took horrible notes, but want to share a few things.. the elder opening the meeting emphasized the importance of confidentiality.
Axelspeed

Dear lord the WTS cannot afford to have too many people come back to the halls talking about unconditional love and support offered by "worldly people"

Very true.
As mentioned above...if you are from Louisiana and are even contemplating a fade, now is the perfect time. Your elders dont know if you've been shipped to Calif, Utah or tim-buk-too...and right now are too preoccupied with their own lives.
Axelspeed
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finally reading "Crisis of Conscience"
by glenwoodswoman in
1. jw
2. friends
i never had the desire to read the book in all the years i have been "liberated".

joining this board got me curious about the book and i am finally reading it....and i am blown away by it!.

i left for reasons of my own- the society and i could not agree on who should run my life- them or me-i always felt that this life style works for some people, but not for me.. now that i am reading coc, i see the whole issue in a much bigger light!
Axelspeed

My faith in the WTB&TS had to be destroyed as I knew they were the only true religion in the entire universe

Unfortunately, to be free, i think this must be done. If there is any inkling that they are right a person could end up with back and forth misery for life.
COC is required reading in my mind for any who have left or wish to leave.
Axelspeed
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

But their claim that Quotes has cited the passages "selectively" clearly opens the door for his defense to enter the original articles (in their entirety) of each and every quote he has made into the public record, to prove that the quotes were not selective as claimed.
Exactly! They don't they really want to go down that road. Do they?
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

You may transfer all the SOFTWARE and all Printed Materials to another party who is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Just make sure you have access to the printed material or scans therefrom. There is a difference between software and the printed material therefrom and published bi-monthly paperback journals.
all Printed Materials to another party who is one of Jehovah’s Witnesses but only if that party accepts all of the terms of this Agreement
...if this refers to the mags, JWs unknowingly violate this themselves every Saturday morning. Do they ask if the other party accepts the agreement? If referring to printouts, see the above.
Axelspeed
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

Are they going to start suing people who go door to door but don't put in a field service report?

...or sister elderly pioneer doing street work who is trying to ~~get rid of~~...I mean place some of those stacked up in the closet, 2 year old, moldy, old light issues.
Axelspeed
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

btw...if i have further thoughts I will share them privately through pm...I think the good suggestion was made that it would be wise not to reveal strategy.
Axelspeed
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

As I read it, this is a bunch of legal sounding smoke...because I just don't see a legitimate basis...at least one that makes sense.
1) The CDs are not sold (wink) so there can be no monetary harm.
2) The CD itself is a replication of previously printed public documents...which were not sold (wink) but distributed.
3) The reference about the intent to embarrass is purely speculative, especiallly since these are direct quotes from there own literature, with no commentary.
4) The only way to prove that intent is to show that the quotes are taken out of context or are complete mis-quotes. Do you think they really want that? In that case the worst thing they could do is go to trial.
5) They do not want to make this a discussion of doctrine, but in order to prove the claims of harm they would ultimately and inadvertantly be exposing those very doctrines. Not whether the doctrine is true, false good or bad,....but whether they did in fact print what is now only being quoted....from documents that they themselves printed and distributed freely.
Axelspeed
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .
Axelspeed

paragraph 31 for an interesting, and bizarre claim: the Watch Tower's books and materials "embarrass[es]" the Watch Tower!
...And that's what really gets under their skin. They are trying, but they can't run from their own words fast enough! Axelspeed