Posts by H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

I see that you all are not trying to convert or anything which is cool, you are just offering to take a view from all angles not just one which is fine. You though must also understand my position, if I simply turn away because of things that you have said or things I have read on your website or any other for that matter, then I have no respect for myself in my faith. That is why I do stand firm in my beliefs. I understand all religions have their faults, and even if there are crooked people in the organization for the most part the people down here are doing what is needed and required of the Bible. I am not going to worry about them when the end comes and judgment is passed upon them, I am going to worry about doing what I am supposed to be doing. And it is not that I do not feel that I am not strong enough to just read what other posts say here but it is something I would not wish to do. My beliefs are enough for me, I do not need other external sources outside of the Bible. I mean last week a mormon stopped by the door talking to me about sticks and extra book and preaching for two years etc and I knew more about their own religion than they did. That is not the first time. I was a Catholic once and the "father's" favorite phrase was, "God works in mysterious ways," or when asked about Gods name after reading it in the KJV he said, "oh yes that is his name, but we do not think it is important, just have Jesus in your heart." Uhh ok. I am not saying that is what you all are, but honestly have most of you stuck to the same high moral standards that you once followed? Not trying to accuse just a point. One of my friends became apostate and he looks very different, just somone I would not want around my kids ya know? My best friend passed away not too long ago also, did I blame God like many people do? No and I wait until I see him again if it is what Jehovah wants. Even if Jehovah seems unfair to some people I would not care, he created me and I humbly owe my life to him. I do not need sympathy from people that think I am wrong, all I ask is to take me for what I am just like you ask. We can be here for months typing and typing back and forth and eventually what will honestly happen is I will start adopting ideas from here as well. Not because I was not strong enough but because I would probably be spending much more of my time here than elsewhere. Just like with anything else, you spend enough time doing it you begin to live it. May this be the last post, I think I have learned a lot of things about you guys which is cool I think, but I must stick to what I see best for me and not for what others see.

Kind regards,

H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

Apparently not little witch.

Well im off, this convo has been different, anyways, take care all of you and hope you all find what you are looking for if you have not already.

I guess I will not make the mistake again as little witch pointed out.

H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

Actually, H. is my last name initial thats all, I don't do drugs, I hate drugs. Also, as for the end, I do not need a date to follow. To you I may look like I am following blindly but if it is looked at that way, then it is no different than the rest of the world just going on about their lives. All I am saying, if you all believe in God, which I am not sure who does but if you do then anyone with any type of pure, clean worship should survive the "great day" by Catholic, Baptist and other religion requirements. Since they really only require for you to be "good" and confess etc. So if I am doing that, being good, confessing my sins in prayer, plus preaching and more, then should I not also survive the last day according to their standards? Of course I know you do not follow any religion, I mean if you do not follow JW, then you certainly are not going to follow a Catholic church and their "building fund." rofl. [joke] Anyways, I have spoke about the whole cult thing to others when they say we are a cult, well if it is a cult to you all, I would rather be a member of this cult than any other one. Bible principles that were shed light upon correctly only helped me. They did not say "go buy Nikes and a jump suit and drink THIS!" Religion will be around forever, it will never be extinct because humans all have that "need" for worship. Every civilization has always started some type of worship, it has been programmed into their mind. Yeah there are people that do not follow any religion, "free minds" but even that is a religion. Most of them are the people that listen to a song or a band and make it a religion. I think the Bible is accurate enough for what we need to do so I do not need to go elsewhere for information. Just like Isaiah 44:18. My insight has proven to me that it is what will keep on giving me strength and knowledge. Remeber that scripture about how the Bible can cut down to the soul? Well this is a reason for me why I only need the Bible and not any external source to add to it. That is why it was written in such a way that it would not be understood by many. Sure some will say that that is harsh but we are only thinking with out pee brain with pee brain thoughts ya know?

Take care.

]-[.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

LOL wow, no you are not swine MSN butteryfly. Exdub, I read what you posted, just because I did not reply do not take it the wrong way. As for my faith, it is fine for me, you went your way and I my own. We will meet when the end comes or whatever it is you believe, and that will prove what will really happen, lets leave it as that.

Regards,

H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

Nosferatu, dude, is your pic a pic of Gary Oldman? If not, you look a lot like him

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000198/

Peace.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

ROFL!

Well you guys can tell jokes thats for sure. Thanks for the welcome, no hard feelings, it just happens, to sides bump heads the wrong way. If I knocked on your door would you at least say "no thanks" instead of a slam? I hope so. Anyways, seeing I just got cooties I must go get my Lysol, no offense, its a joke.

Bye forum take care of yourselves.

H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

Wow.

I could not verify my post was up probably because I am not "enlightened" but anyway, I saw a quite a few posts, you guys are quick to jump on anything that does not go with the flow are you not? Avashia you just did what you said Jehovah's Witnesses do... Anyways, I just saw an example of what you guys do, wow. and 1 more for the road, WOW.

Random Task, I did not realize what it was until after I registed, I do not surf the net much since it is just junk like TV. You are right, maybe I should have not posted, probably a mistake, but look at the quick response everyone had. I do not want to argue with you guys even though I felt a bit attacked, but maybe I made you feel the same and I apologize for that it was not my place. Thanks for the some what reply that at least took some time to type instead of just provoking a type of tempered reply. I know if I ask if you guys are so enlightened why didnt you try to provide info instead of harsh remarks, but you would say you are not a religion or some other reply. So, I say instead, why name the website what it is, obviously it is deceitful to those that are not aware. Why not name it something more closely to what this website really is? Just a question is all. But to me, if I may have an opinion, the remarks that were posted back were just filled with spiteful comments, I see the world has not changed much.

Love you all,

H.

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Black Veil Lowers again?

by H. in

hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.

nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.

i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.

H.

Hello I am new and this will probably be the last time I post. Nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something I would like to be associated with. I joined saying "oh cool a JW forum" but after reading just 2 posts I realized it is the Black Veil all over again. I mean there is no "about" page really describing this website that I saw or anything. So IMO I assumed that you are still JWs, but a lot of you speak like you are not which is pretty decieving. I mean if this website was supposed to be for "free minded" slash former JWs slash I still call myself a JW then the website should at least mention that. Some of the topics were just pointless, instead of focusing on how being a Jehovah's Witness greatly seperates you from everyone else, I read just a lot of attacks and attempts to find faults in the organization. I mean, we are only imperfect humans with a heart that is inclinded to do bad so of course people will think this way but it just makes me sad in my heart. I know people will just use some type of reasoning to reason their way out of certain things, I mean you are only as smart as your mind is, so it is not very wise when you are not walking with wise people. I understand that this forum is open to EVERYONE because there is no real way of filtering people on the internet so I assume quite a few of the people on here are Apostate and probably some other type of "free mind" organization. (probably why this website does get so many hits) and there are probably very few who are true Jehovahs Witnesses which if they are they should disjoin themselves from this as soon as they wake up. Just another thing, more than half the "alias" names that are being used by members have something to do with the world. Just being here a few minutes I have seen one that had the word devil in it but with a cryptic form so it could be said "it doesn't say that" and I have seen one that formed a cross and another blah blah blah. Yeah it is clear.

For the things that we do not understand do not become discouraged by them my brothers, Jehovah's wisdom is not searchable because it surpasses us all. There some things we will just have to wait on or accept. Exodus 33:21-23

Keep in Faith of Jehovah, do not expect him to prove himself to you, we should be but humble humans who are proving ourselves to him!Matthew 12:39 ?A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking for a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jo´nah the prophet."

I know most are probably rolling their eyes or planning a big reply of some sort or preparing some type of "enlightened comment" but as inticing as it would be to stick around and see what you would say I will resist because it would just be honey coating on a molded truth. I have seen many of you saying the same things, "I used to be a JW" "I DAed myself" "It is the true flock but not led correctly" etc. Just remember, just because you were disfellowshipped does not mean that the elders did not have a right to, they have a big job (an I know a few of you here, I know some were elders) they must do to keep the organizatio going as clean as possible, they are imperfect too, I have seen an elder read an article (out of just curiousity) of an apostate and it took him a whole year to return to the Truth. What does that tell you? If you are listening it should tell you that Satan is the master and the Father of the lie, he knows every and which way to craft a lie to get you to astray from the correct path.

When I began to study I came upone persecution like I have never felt. When I became inactive it kept on for a bit but it stopped until a few years later I began studying again, isn't that funny how that works? I did not look at it as persecution, I looked at it as if it were a sign for me that I was headed the right path because it became tough, no one said it would be easy, I do not wish to have my "ears tickled" which is why I am still a Jehovah's Witness, I feel complete, Jehovah designed us to have a need for worship.

I have gone long enough talking and typing this out. It would truely say a lot if this post stayed on here for more than a month but I do not expect it to, but now that I said that who knows.

Best regards with love may you all find your way again brothers so we can finally and truely be free, from this World of Satan.

H.